Episode 472:


Nicole Laino
Hello, and welcome to Unshakable with Human Design. I’m your host, Nicole. Nicole Laino. And it’s a transit episode, so of course, I am joined by my lovely and talented friend and co-host for the month, Ms. Christina Luna. How are you? 

Christina Luna
I am very good. Very much in my body. I’m feeling very grounded in my body these days. 

Nicole Laino
It’s always good to be in our bodies. That’s always a better thing than being dissociated. And it’s also, like, kind of apropos for at the time of recording, we are just stepping into Taurus season, so being in our body with our feet on the ground is usually a good thing for this time. Kind of par for the course, right? 

Christina Luna
Exactly. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And before we get started, I do want to call out one thing. We have a new guide out. Before we get started with today’s episode, I have a new guide out called the Coach’s Guide to Human Design. So if you’re interested in this stuff and you’re curious about how you can use this in your life, and if you’re a coach and you’re looking to, like, incorporate human design or you’re wondering how it could work for you, that guide is a really great resource. Just go to nicolelaino.com/coach or DM me “COACH” on Instagram, and you can get it there. Do you have anything going on before we kick off? 

To download a copy of Nicole’s Free Guide – The Coaches Guide to Human Design DM her “COACH” on  Instagram or go to nicolelaino.com/COACH 

Christina Luna
No, I’m just finishing up those quarterly readings and I’m preparing for the next quarter. 

Nicole Laino
And I was going to say you’d, like, take half the quarter to get through all the readings. You have a lot of them now, huh? They’re catching on. 

Christina Luna
Definitely. I’m feeling very grounded in the process these days. I feel as though the structures and the process are all. It’s all very tangible. It’s all very supported. And so, yeah, I don’t have anything new. I feel like I’m stabilizing processes. Already initiated. 

Nicole Laino
Well, and you’re doing these. This is your second year, or have you been doing them longer? You started doing them last year, right? 

Christina Luna
Well, you know, I’ve been doing readings like this, the ones where I’m doing the quarterly Z. This is my second full year. 

Nicole Laino
I feel like that’s sort of the sweet spot with anything. Like when you. Oh. Like this is becoming sort of, you know, in my body. It’s like muscle memory to do some of these things. It’s new stuff, but it’s like the process is there. You have your process. I love that kind of moment where it’s like, oh, this feels like something that is not. I’m not questioning anything about it. I just do this and it feels really good. And you hope that it lasts before, you know, manifesting generator. I can tend to be like, and now I’m bored. What else are we going to do now? How can I break it and start all over again? 

Christina Luna
So I do have that feeling, but because I’m aware that a seven-year cycle has just ended. At the time of this recording, we’re literally standing on the cusp of Uranus entering Gemini. And for the last seven years it moved through Taurus, asking us to create some kind of stability in this part of our lives where we get our needs met. How do we use our special gifts and talents, our special values and abilities to create sustainability for ourselves, inner security for ourselves. And so I feel like the last seven years definitely had me trying different things and innovating that thing and approaching it from a different direction, or delivering my offerings with different words or a different way. 

Christina Luna
And that finally I’ve graduated from this seven-year-old sort of innovation era, and now I can let myself rest on the sustainability of that and start moving into a different mode of communication with the world altogether. And that’s what the next seven years of Uranus in Gemini might be for me and for everyone. I mean, everyone that’s listening to this podcast has recently experienced Uranus moving into Gemini. And that changes the. It revolutionizes the way that we think about stories, the way that we think about our beliefs, the way that we focus our minds on what we’re doing. So I imagine now we’re in completely different ways of even being with our human design recipe. Like the story that you just said. Okay, now that I just got it, exactly how it’s working, I’m going to want to change it again. 

Christina Luna
What if that story maybe doesn’t apply now because we finished the security portion of creating something structurally sound. 

Nicole Laino
It’s very true. And you know, I think speaking to the other long transit that just recently changed, you know, from Neptune in Pisces, Tune in Aries, I think that there are some structural changes that are happening where these big shifts, we’re all. And this is humanity, this isn’t any one person. I mean, your chart might react to this and have connections to this that are making it a particularly powerful. But these shifts that are happening, if you feel like you’re sort of graduating into something new and different, it’s because we all are. So Uranus transited into Gemini as we’re recording this. It hasn’t happened yet, but by the time anybody listens to it will have happened. It happens the 25th, right? Saturday. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, I’ve got it on the 25th. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. So the 25th on Saturday. So this will have been a couple of days. You will have already had this. If you’re listening to this, Uranus into Gemini. And, you know, I’m already thinking about how this is showing up because we’re so close now. It’s kind of here. It’s here. You know, is it a coincidence that I have become obsessed with, like, Claude Cowork and like, my AI employees and just this whole, like, radical new way of communicating and working and, you know, incorporating, like, technological sort of shifts in the way that we work? And then obviously, there are the bigger headline things that anybody who’s been listening to anything astrological and heard about Uranus in Gemini, that this is a. It’s a marker of war through the ages. 

Nicole Laino
That whenever we have Uranus in Gemini, when it returns to Uranus in Gemini, then we get. We’ve had war with the Civil War and World War II all started with Uranus and Gemini. And here we are on the brink of. We are at a war with Iran. 

Christina Luna
No, because Gemini rules paradigms. It rules two opinions. 

Nicole Laino
Yes. 

Christina Luna
It rules the knowledge that there’s a me and there’s a you, and we have different opinions about what we believe is true. And that paradigm of duality of this, like, I’m. My opinion’s right. Your opinion’s wrong. The way you live your life, that is grounds for some type of war. But it doesn’t have to be like, it’s. I also see this overall as a way for us to change the stories of our mythology, to rewrite the structure of the way we believe the hero’s journey moves. What if we all get to use our creative license to write personal stories for ourselves that make meanings in the world that are different than the meanings we’ve been living by. That’s the encouraging idea that I’m obsessed with right now. You’re obsessed with Claude AI and I’m obsessed with writing a story about the future. 

Christina Luna
I’ve got this, like, huge story I want to tell, and it’s not a coincidence that we’re obsessed with these things. And I feel that all of the leaders that are alive and present in this moment, we have a creative responsibility. That’s the Saturn in Aries, that’s the Neptune in Aries, that’s the Pluto in Aquarius. We have this creative mission to cultivate a new story for our collective consciousness, to write a new collective consciousness into the world through our vibration, through our beliefs. 

Nicole Laino
And I mean, that’s happening. You know, if you go back to like what we are less than a year away from with the 2027 change, we have all of these major transits happening of like these long transits ending and the new ones beginning. And they’re very radical shifts. Pluto into Aquarius, Neptune into Aries, and then we have Uranus into Gemini. We have these shifts that are happening that are saying, like, it’s a new day and what do we want it to look like? And you know, I think in the past we’ve always looked at it through the lens of the structures that exist, but we’re already seeing that Pluto in Aquarius is already starting to. 

Nicole Laino
Has already been doing its job of peeling back that curtain and unearthing all of the dirt and the corruption and everything that some of us knew was there, but didn’t quite know how bad it was. And just all of this stuff, you know, we have just so many things happening where we’ve got, you know, the Eric Swalwell thing like that being unearthed, seeming like this good guy politician who is a total sleaze. Just all of these paradigm shifting, all of these things about like, what do we believe in? And seeing that it’s not the structures, it’s the individuals. That’s the big shift that I see happening. That’s the big shift that I see coming is that this is going to have to change where it becomes about individuals rather than looking at, you know, Democrats, Republicans or any whatever groups you pick. 

Nicole Laino
It’s not the groups, it’s the individuals. And we’re already doing it. We’re already finding our own news and our own gurus and our own leaders online because the individual has been given that power. So it’ll be a very interesting next. What do we have left? Nine months until the 2027 change, which is bananas, crazy. So crazy. But again, we’re so close to that. We’re already feeling that’s not something that is, you know, far off. We are within orb of that change at this point. I think the other thing that we are starting to see in this change is that we’re gonna go from the human design standpoint and the cross of planning standpoint. We are in a one line right now. And one line resonates with fear. 

Nicole Laino
It is the stability line is the one that says like, you know, we gotta make sure everything is secure. And it does that because it’s scared that it’s not. And then we are going to shift though. When we shift, we’re going to a sixth line which is completely different, which is like the visionary that sees the whole big picture and you know, I don’t know what it will be like, but it will be different for sure. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. The thing I was feeling like really ripe in my system, the reason why I accidentally even interrupted you with it. Oftentimes when we’re in line drawing moments, we don’t have any way of feeling how significant the line drawing moment actually is. We have all the awareness that there was before the line, we have the awareness that the line’s being drawn and we don’t actually know how to distinguish what the future is going to be in contrast to the past because we’re living on the line. And even if you look all the way back when they arbitrarily drew the BCAD lines, the people that were alive at the time that line was artificially drawn, they didn’t know that there was a line being drawn right then. 

Christina Luna
Like they didn’t know the people in the future are going to look back and be like, whoa, there’s BC and AD right? So we’re in a time that epic, I feel. And this moment we’re in with Taurus right now, this moment of fix Earth, this moment of being in the tangible circumstances that we’ve created so far, I feel in some ways we had some recent humbling. We had Mars and Saturn, we had these planets that were like, okay, everything you’re looking at right now is a result of things you didn’t know better about in the past. There are things that you learned about, they’re things that you’ve mastered. We can’t go back in the past and change any of those things, but we can have a real, solid, mature, sobering look at what is right now. 

Christina Luna
And we can begin to align with our deeper values and make adjustments to our behavior so that we can have a different outcome in the future. And this goes for a lot of different things. This could go from everything from like oral hygiene to codependency in our relationships to, geez, I just didn’t even realize that was not okay until now. I see really clearly it never was okay. But I didn’t even know it wasn’t okay until now. And now I’m not going to live my life in that direction ever again. We’re not going to live our life in that direction societally ever again. But we didn’t know before. And so now we’ve got that tangible representation and now we know better. And now we. We will behave differently. 

Christina Luna
We’ll behave slow and steadily in tangible, humble ways that are going to shift the trajectory with every step we take. Right. 

Nicole Laino
And while we don’t know what this particular moment we can’t forecast, you know, we can’t forecast what tomorrow will feel like. Cause tomorrow as it is, will have never happened before in our lifetime. We don’t remember that moment. But we do know what Taurus season feels like. We do know what this time of year feels like every year. And there are just hallmarks to all of this stuff that we can use. And that’s. I think there’s a lot to talk about for May. How are you feeling about May in general? 

Christina Luna
Like, I definitely feel like it’s a moment for breaking cycles through committed, slow, steady, continuous behavior. And I think they’re going to be liberating. I feel like it’s going to in sometimes be a little tedious, but that it’ll feel rewarding. And I feel like we’re headed toward, like coming back into contact with a lot of free energy that will fuel us by the end of the month. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, I feel the same way. And I think in greater context with the rest of the year that we’ve already experienced. You know, we kind of had this like, we had that slow start the year. We kind of felt like were getting our bearings for a while and then we get some clarity and then we kind of go back into the mud. And it really does feel like we are on the other side of all of that now. I definitely feel like I’m on the back of that fire horse. And something that is not normal for me is I have to remind myself to rest. Like, I have been really tearing it up, working a lot and I have a lot of energy. But there is a time where I’m just like, you need to like, go. And you’ve been working too long. 

Nicole Laino
You’ve been too focused. It’s easy for me. But I do have to remind myself because I can feel that energy really pumping right now. Like the. It’s moving fast. And even though we’ve gotten like grounded, I do feel like I hit the ground right now. It still feels like, you know, I mean, Taurus isn’t sitting back and doing nothing. Taurus is working hard. And now it feels like, okay, well, now you’re going to get into the deeper work is what I’m feeling. And it happens to line up timing wise with everything that I have going on, that it’s like, this is a deep work moment for me. So it’s working out well. But, you know, we start off the month, you know, just looking at the calendar. I mentioned this at the end of last month’s transit episode, but it’s continuing into this month. 

Nicole Laino
So I’m going to mention it again. You know, we still have from the 23rd of April. So tomorrow, from the time we’re recording this through May 3rd, we have the 5125 channel. So we have the channel of initiation. So there’s still that initiating energy that is carrying us crossing over from that Aries. These are two Aries gates. So they’re carrying that energy with them and they are moving quickly. So I think there’s sort of like a push into Taurus season into May. And then we have on the 3rd of the month, we actually go into the human design second quarter. So that’s where it says. And I almost feel like that channel of initiation is sort of saying, like, take everything that you were thinking about building everything that you started. 

Nicole Laino
It’s time to let go of, like, pick something and you better move with this because May is going to be about doing the hard work on the thing you said you were going to get done. 

Christina Luna
Yep. Yeah. And I’ve talked about these arrows of manifestation that Aries is the month where we pull the arrow back. We align it to where we want it to go. We hope that we’re passionate about that. It’s a good idea. It’s the idea we’ve really ruminated and feel the most excited about. We let the arrow go. The arrow flies on that fixed trajectory through Taurus. So that is doing the hard work on the thing we chose to do the hard work on. And we are opening the month with the full moon in Scorpio, which is saying, but guess what? You don’t have to do that work all by yourself. There’s something really beautiful about asking for the type of help that will actually help you from the type of person or the type of institution that can actually help you. 

Christina Luna
And this is help that moves us from dependency to independence about something. There’s, there’s like, you know how sometimes you don’t want to ask for help about something because you don’t want to feel dependent on that thing. Like, you always have to get help from that thing. And so you kind of are like, ooh, I don’t want to feel like I need that thing I’m asking for help from. There’s a real big difference. That kind of dependence and the type of help that’ll actually leverage you into the next, like, iteration of your journey. And we are being asked at the beginning of the month to ask those bigger asks of the universe, of the world, of our life, because that help will leverage us into what it is we’re shooting for, you know? 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And before you and I hopped on the call, I talked about how that’s a very specific message that I’m receiving, is, you know, I’m not a great asker. I’m a good giver, but I’m not a good asker. I’m not great at asking for help. And sometimes I’m just so busy and so focused on what I’m doing and so disciplined that I forget that help even exists. That I could ask for help and then layer on some of the Scorpio moon Scorpio rising. Like, I’ll do it alone. Like, it’s so much more comfortable for me to just, like, squirrel away in my hole and be by myself, you know, and we could couple a bunch of personal things on top of that. But that’s what I think is so interesting. And for everybody listening, to be noticing, how do you feel different right now? 

Nicole Laino
Not do you feel uncomfortable, not do I feel, you know, go deeper than that and really ask yourself, what’s the message that’s coming through? What’s beneath the discomfort? What’s beneath the restlessness? What’s beneath the comfort? If you’re feeling really calm, like, can you go deeper? I think it’s a very interesting exercise to do, to journal and then look at the transits, pour out how you feel, and then go listen to this episode again and see where you are in this little journey that we’re on cosmically, and see how they line up. And that’s how you can start to understand how this stuff works and how it’s affecting you. Because it’s very interesting how, you know, I don’t look at the transits and then journal. I journal and then I look at the transits because I want to know how I feel first. 

Nicole Laino
I don’t want to taint how I feel with knowledge, you know, day to day. 

Christina Luna
That’s interesting. I just Had a client right before this, right before we met, and he said, how does it feel to have all this information and your life? How does it feel? And I said, well, so I use the transits a little differently, especially when I know I’m going through something that’s a potent opportunity. I use the transits like a permission slip. So I enter into something. Like, I feel what the permission slip window actually is giving me permission to do. Like, for instance, I’m doing a south node, black moon Lilith transit right now. So black Lilith issues are uncomfortable. And the permission slip is, what if you could go in and open all the boxes that have kept you safe and stuck, that you’ve repressed? You put those in there because you said you would deal with them some other time. 

Christina Luna
And now what would happen if you just let them get opened and messy? And so I didn’t know exactly what emotions that would bring, but I can definitely tell you that having the permission slip is like, oh, like, okay, now or never, baby. Let’s do it. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And I look at, like, windows and things like that, and I might plan some things a little bit. I’m not super prescriptive about that, but I do watch out for certain big things. Like, I’ll remember on Saturday to kind of clock how I feel. Because this is open head open, Ajna. Like, just my mind is so open that I have a bunch of stuff up there, yet I remember nothing. Kind of like I could forget everything if I wanted to. I just wouldn’t think about it, you know? If I’m not thinking about it’s not there. So like an airhead. But what I’ll do is, like, if I start journaling, I won’t remember unless it’s a big transit. I won’t remember what gate is in what. Or we have this activated. I might have some idea, but I’m not so in tune with that. 

Nicole Laino
And then I look back and I’m like, oh, right, yeah, I talked about that yesterday and completely forgot. Like, I can watch thoughts fall out of my head. Like, just things are known, and until somebody asks me, they’ll ask me and I’ll say it right out. And, like, it was right on the tip of my tongue. But if I tried to think about what are the transits today, I wouldn’t be able to tell you. It’s that kind of weird brain thing. So what do you have for that first week? That was what I had kind of marked out for that channel of initiation. First week into the middle of that first, like, the first full week. So until Wednesday we have like, we’ve got kind of two channels for that first. First week it goes till Wednesday with that channel of initiation. 

Nicole Laino
And then interestingly enough, it’s like it hands the baton to the channel of maturation. So it goes from like the beginnings to endings that cycles again. We’ve been kind of ping ponging these two channels where they’ve shown up at different times in the last couple of months. And so we’re going to go from like initiating something to actually being able to see it through, actually being able to like get it started and get it moving and close out anything that does not need to be carried further than this point. So those go from, you know, the first one is till the 6th, and then on the 6th it’s like they change hands and until the 11th we get that other channel. So those are those two kind of sort of energies that we’re all going to have. 

Nicole Laino
Everybody is going to have a defined ego that first week. Everybody in a defined G center. So that’s going to be different for some people. And everybody is going to have a defined root and defined sacral. So everybody will be a generator at that time. So that’s worth mentioning as well because that can feel very different if you’re a projector, that root center, who doesn’t have the root center normally defined either. That’s a big deal. That will feel, you’ll feel that. No doubt. 

Christina Luna
Interesting. So I also note that the energy up until the 6th is this cultivation of like, yes, I, I want to move in this direction. In order for me to do this successfully, I need to leverage these types of help for myself. And I also need to take inventory of the things I’ve really done. Well. There’s a recognition of how much I’ve actually moved the earth and created these gifts and talents that I have. And so there’s an acknowledgement of the fruit that’s ripening on the tree, all of the hard work we’ve already done and on May 6th we kind of lean onto our shovel and look at all the fruit and we have Pluto moving retrograde. And this is like, okay, all there is to do now is to let those things continue to mature. 

Christina Luna
And I’m going to step into a different type of work now. I’ve completed the work it took to get these fruits on the vine. Now I’m prepared to process these fruits in a different way. And so we step away from the cultivation and we step into the action of utilizing our gifts to turn that fruit into a pie. Like, use the ingredients of our life to create something unique and special with our hands. And the new moon in taurus on the 16th is sort of the, like, final product that we’ve decided is the material product of us living our life this way. And so I think we’ll. It’ll be like. It is a lot of work to make the pies. 

Christina Luna
It is a lot of work to pull all of my resources and all my materials and my talents and put them together into something beautiful that I can give to another. And here it is on May 16th. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, I feel like that whole week is going to be interesting that week, the 10th through the 16th. Like, I feel like that is just going to be. I feel like it’s going to feel good. I think it’s going to feel like things are opening. You and I were talking about this before went live, that the energy is sort of starting to feel like something can be built, maybe, like something can actually happen. I think that while we’ve been working, I don’t know if it’s necessarily felt hopeful this whole time. And I think maybe we get a couple of glimpses of what could be, or maybe not exactly what it is, but that it feels positive. Potentially something might open up. And one thing I wanted to highlight on the 13th, we actually have a nodal shift. 

Nicole Laino
So not in the signs, but in the gates for human design. So we’re going to shift from. We’ve had. Everybody’s been emotional this whole time that the 4037 has been activated. That’s been since the beginning of the year. We’re shifting over to another emotional gate. Well, one of them is emotional, but the other one is very closely tied to the emotional process, the 55 and the 59. So gate 55, I think potentially the most emotional gate in the body graph. It is. This is the gate of abundance. This is the gate of. It’s so multifaceted, and it’s part of the cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. So again, we go from. 

Nicole Laino
Because this is what’s changing with the cross of the sleeping Phoenix, the 4037 that we just ended with the nodes of what we all see, who we are loyal to, what matters to us. How do we take care of each other? Do we even care to take care of each other anymore? And now it’s shifting over to these individual energies, which 55, quite frankly, is super moody or can be. It can also be super. This is like the Law of Attraction gate. This is what, like, what we’re all going to Be striving for this is like, you know, you think of like that Piscean energy of emotions. To say like, you know, Pisces doesn’t want to work. It doesn’t want to. It’s like I’m just entitled to it because I’m worthy and we’re all worthy. 

Nicole Laino
And that’s what abundance is just feeling like I’m worthy of all of it. I deserve to be fulfilled. And, you know, and it has highs and lows, and we’re going to go through that. So if you have gate 39 in your chart, you will be emotional during this entire transit, which will last several months. If you have Gate six in your chart, then you will be emotional throughout this journey as well. So these are just some things to flag that this is kind of. These are some new themes. And specifically the way that the nodes will show up more is like what you see out in the world. You might see a lot of the shadow of 55 is victimhood is feeling like things happen to me, they don’t happen for me. Or you see the opposite. 

Nicole Laino
You see the gift, which is everything happens for a reason. And everything is working out in my favor all the time because I’m me and I deserve it. Not because I’m better, but because I’m me and I’m a human being and a child of this universe. 

Christina Luna
So I’m looking at the week that May 17, May 18. I’m asking everyone to circle those days because I feel there may be some kind of wake up call that wakes us up out of some kind of dream, some kind of illusion, some kind of delusion, some kind of nightmare. It wakes us up and we’re just suddenly sitting in our bed upright, so grateful that dream is over. And why did I have that dream? What did that even mean? And both Mars and Venus are changing signs on the 18th. So when Mars and Venus both change signs on the same day, it also makes us move differently, it makes us open and feel differently. So we’re just. 

Christina Luna
Whatever this news is, I have a feeling it’ll coincide with us slowing down and being more present, slowing down, letting ourselves feel slowing down and getting wisdom from our physical body. So interesting transition that you’re talking about with those nodes. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And it’s funny, I had the following day circled on here because on the 19th I had that there might be some big epiphany. So, like during that same little week, you know, between the two of us, like that beginning of that week, the 17th through, like the 19th, 20th, you know, there might just be. Can you create some space for, you know, is there an epiphany that you get a big idea? Do you get kind of a burst of. On the 19th, it’s going to be like. It’s potentially like this big, kind of like a lightning bolt, like a burst of energy to maybe, you know, you get an idea, and you might actually have the energy to take that idea and know what to do with it. You may, you may not. We don’t know. That’s how creativity works. 

Nicole Laino
It might come and. And then you’ve got to table it for a moment before you know exactly what to do with it. But don’t lose the idea that you get that day. Don’t lose that spirit of it. Write it down. Spend some time with it. I think that’s the lesson here, too, you know, because this involves, you know, the gate of ordering, which says that, you know, just because you have the idea doesn’t mean that you don’t have to work to create it, to let it. You know, it’s messy in the beginning, and it requires some conscious time spent and maybe some thinking that doesn’t necessarily feel fun. But if you want it, then put the work in. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, and that coincides. So May 20, if we’re using the metaphor of pulling the arrow back, the arrow flies through its trajectory in Taurus, and then it lands somewhere when the sun enters Gemini on May 20th. And when it lands, it gives us information. It gives us a new thought or an opinion, or it gives us something to bounce our ideas off of. And so we got that new idea, and it’s actually going to change what we previously believed. Gemini is a mutable air sign. So that means new information that we receive changes our mind about something, because now we know more. And when we know more, we have to be wrong about what we used to know, because. Because now we know something that’s even more accurate. 

Christina Luna
And so every Gemini season, I like to remind myself that my opinions are not laws, the beliefs I have are not universal truth. I can find new evidence about my life, and I can make changes right now. 

Nicole Laino
It’s so interesting that you use those words. My opinions are not laws. And it’s very funny because the two of the gates that I’m looking at for that 19th, you know, big idea. It’s about innovation. You know, they’re part of what we call the cross of laws, which is all about, you know, what laws need to be broken and which ones need to stay. Not everything needs to go. You know, we don’t need to tsunami every thought, opinion rule that we had. But it is helpful to question them and say, does this still apply? But to remind yourself that it’s like, just because these were laws once does not make them laws forever. Just because I thought this once doesn’t mean that. 

Nicole Laino
And I think sometimes our sense of identity can get stuck to these stories in these ways that we think and this week is sort of opening us up to, or wants to opens us up to the idea that maybe the stories could be different and we’ll be okay. 

Christina Luna
Especially since the sun will contact Uranus in this new space. Uranus is saying every single thing you thought was true about Uranus is like Prometheus. Prometheus, the one that stole fire from the gods and gave it to the humans so that they could use that power and passion to create. And so with Uranus in Gemini, it’s almost like we have Prometheus saying, you are the meaning makers. You have the power to create the new stories. You created the old stories, and now you can create new stories. The ancient ones were just people, too. They’re just people writing stories and myths and proceeding from as much information as they had. So what does it look like for us to have the power, the fire of story and meaning making now? 

Christina Luna
I actually think even though this is like, yeah, every Gemini season we have this opportunity because Uranus has made this movement for some reason. I’m feeling it very epically. I’m feeling it more epically than usual. 

Nicole Laino
Well, I mean, it’s a big deal. We get this every Gemini season, but we don’t have Uranus in Gemini. Every Gemini season, it’s a new era. We’ve got years of this ahead, and we could doom and gloom about it and we could think that only the worst will happen or whatever war is bad. We could couple this also with the fact that Trump is a Gemini and this is his Uranus return as well. There’s. There’s that. And did you know that this completely side note tangent, but did you know that all of the leaders involved in this war, Trump, Netanyahu, and now the new ayatollah in Iran, were all born on eclipses? Did you know that? 

Christina Luna
I didn’t know that. 

Nicole Laino
Isn’t that bizarre? 

Christina Luna
They were born on eclipses in. 

Nicole Laino
In Gemini, just born on eclipses. They were all eclipse babies born during an eclipse. And then Trump happens to be going through his Uranus return. 

Christina Luna
That’s really interesting. It is. 

Nicole Laino
It’s kind of incendiary, unstable energy. Isn’t It. And, you know, it could be anything, but I think that those are, like. When I heard that, I’m like, really? All of them? And I looked it up. I heard it on a podcast. I think it was Chris Brennan’s podcast. He was talking about it, and I was like, no way. And I went and looked. I trusted him to say the right thing and that he was telling the truth, but I went and Googled that shit. I looked them up right away. I’m like, I want to see the charts. And sure enough, yeah, they were. Trump and Netanyahu were born, like, on the day of the eclipse. And I think the Ayatollah of Iran, he was born, like, a day or two, but still in the eclipse window. 

Christina Luna
The thing I’m finding the most interesting about the Uranus eclipse, sun, Gemini situation with Trump, of all the people that I witnessed, it feels like he’s creating his own world the most. Like, he’s. He literally creates a reality that almost nobody else agrees with. He so believes it so deeply. I have no doubt in my head that he believes a reality that he’s creating. 

Nicole Laino
Oh, I’ve always said he’s not a manifester in human design. I mean, this as a manifesting, like, a person who manifests. He’s an incredible manifester. He’s just like, it’s Biff’s World from. Do you remember Back to the Future 2, when Marty, like, steals the betting book and then he leaves it in a trash can in 1955? Biff picks it up, and then he comes back to 1985, and it’s like Las Vegas meets Grand Theft Auto. As, like, the world. And it’s like, someone said that where they were like, yeah, this is like, we’re living in Biff’s world. And I’m like, oh, my God. It really is. It’s just fake tits and gold toilets and, you know, one rich dude and everybody else is poor. Like, it’s. That is the. 

Christina Luna
He built it. 

Nicole Laino
He did it. 

Christina Luna
Unwavering belief in your abilities, that is like the shadow side of Uranus, giving the power to create your own stories. This is a huge responsibility. If you knew you were given fire to create the meaning in the story and that it would actually materialize if you could tell the spell into the world and spell your world into becoming, how careful would you be with the pen that you’re using to write your reality with? 

Nicole Laino
Well, and he’s sun in Gemini, too. He’s a Gemini sun, so he’s got that connection there, too, that it’s not just the Uranus in Gemini, he’s got his sun there too. So it is like, you know, speaking his world into existence. It is absolutely that. And I think, you know, I think narcissists are usually, and sociopaths are usually great manifesters because they don’t allow in anything other than their worldview. And they’re, you know, like, this is. I live in my own paradigm, people be damned. 

Christina Luna
This is so I love that we’re having this conversation because it really does sound so empowering to know that we’re stepping into a time to write a new mythology and write a new story. The theme that’s coming up is like I’ve had a lot of conversations about power and how sometimes we have a strange relationship with power because sometimes we fear that power will corrupt. And so the encouragement is to hold more and more power in our lives right now, knowing that we can stay integrity with our soul, knowing we can stay integrity with our heart, with love, with these Piscean principles that we’ve swam in for the last, I don’t know, 15 years or so. Can we hold power and remember the universal principles of love that we’ve. We love to think ideally about the world, right? 

Christina Luna
How we let them both be mixed together so that people, so there can be more people powerfully creating reality because they’re not afraid to hold power. They’re not afraid that power is corrupting. 

Nicole Laino
Well, and I think power corrupts makes me think of. I talked about this on the show before, but I’m a sci fi not. I love Dune. I’m obsessed with Dune. And this comes from like the Dune books because Paul Atreides, the hero of the story, is a very anti hero. But the second book’s called Messiah, Dune Messiah, the third book. And so it’s very much. It is a story about power and about what power does and in it. I’m not going to say this correctly but basically the gist of what the author was saying was that in the book he says it’s not that power corrupts, it’s those that are drawn to power are corruptible. So yeah, I know it’s like I said it pretty close, but that’s it. 

Nicole Laino
It’s like if you’re resistant to power because you’re afraid of corruption, because you are afraid of. Then you have the ability to stay integrity. The people who are on a quest for power, they are the ones, they are corruptible, they are corrupt inside, which is why the power is so intoxicating to them, and they’re so obsessed with it. And I think, you know, back to just to kind of close out what you were saying about can we all believe in our story? Can we all believe in our power? As much as Douchebag Trump believes in his power to manifest and make the world whatever hell he wants it to be, I think that there is a very real feeling, especially when you see something like this, when you see the things that are happening and it feels like you’re powerless, or it feels. 

Nicole Laino
Feels like you can’t change things, or it feels like the system is not breaking in a way that’s good. It’s breaking in a way that’s like actually closing us out of the process, that it can be very easy to give into that story, to give up your power. And just an interesting kind of way to think about it. It’s like, did you lose your power or did you give it up? You know, this is one of those, like, energy, reality sort of things. It’s like, was it the act of feeling despair and starting to unconscious build a story of how it’s all going away, how I have no power, how we can’t change anything, how it’s all going to hell in a handbasket? And they won. That was it. 

Nicole Laino
Did they really win because they were doing the things, or was it because enough people believed that they would win? 

Christina Luna
Mic drop. 

Nicole Laino
It’s just a fun way to kind of play with, like, was it what I did, or was it how I felt about what I did? The only thing we can control is how we feel. We can’t control. You know, we can do what we can. But the. When you feel hopeless, that’s when it matters most. I would say that to people with money, too. It’s like when it feels like the money isn’t coming in and you’re scared, you need to. That’s when you need to believe the most, that it can come to you from wherever that is when the rubber meets the road on your energetic work. I don’t care how many fucking breath works you’ve done or retreats you’ve been on or shamanic journeys you’ve taken. 

Nicole Laino
If you can’t do it in the moment when it looks really bad to still believe that it will be great, that you are already great, that it’s already yours, then none of that other stuff matters. 

Christina Luna
Wow. Okay, so everything that we just discussed, it’s so perfect for the week between, what, May 17 and May 22. Every single thing we Said it’s a busy week. The wake up call that everything that we just talked about. I hope we’re all safe sitting straight up in bed, holding our face in our hands, being like, oh my gosh, this is real. That’s what I hope and I hope that it’s so empowering and I hope it’s so like inspiring that the last week of May, we completely cut out, we completely remove, we completely end the old journey we used to be on to try to maintain some kind of old school, old outdated story of disempowerment. 

Christina Luna
I hope that we clear the decks, we clear the formulas that we thought we had to do because we felt like if we didn’t do them, then we wouldn’t be able to do X, Y and Z. Like all the bullshit. I hope that we just stack it all up, we let it go. We create a big space in our lives. And there are quite a few transits to Pluto that week. And I think that Pluto’s sitting stationary over there saying, yeah, you’ve evolved beyond those. Pack em up and let em go. You’ve just pack it up, let it go. That’s how I hope that we end May. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, I did wanna flag one thing at the end of May. One other thing about that week, that crazy week of like, oh my God, it’s all here is that’s a great week to write the story that you wish to be true versus getting stuck in the one that you think you have. You know, I think that’s a great time to like exercise a practice around that. Like, what if you journaled every day about the world that you wanted to see, both personally and collectively, whatever you feel called to, as if it already happened, can you get yourself into that state? I think that’s a great time to like, if you don’t have a practice like that already, that’s a great time to play with one. But I did want to call out two other things. 

Nicole Laino
From the 21st till about the 26th, we have, you know, everybody will be a manifesting generator. There might be some extra charisma being flat flung around a little bit. We might be a little busy without purpose during this week. So just. And that’s over the weekend. So maybe it’s okay to be busy without purpose over the weekend, have some fun. But the big one that I wanted to call out is from the 27th to the 30th, we will all be emotional and we will all be individually emotional. We will all have the channel of emoting which is very deep. I get this one in the transits a lot because it connects. I have a hanging gate there. So I get this sort of as a gift on a pretty regular basis. But this one, it feels really dark. So if. 

Nicole Laino
Circle it on your calendar to just check. As you check in with your emotions, if you journal or you notice that you just feel like the world is falling apart. It’s not. You are just. That is the kind of unfortunate artifact of this. So what you do is channel it into something creative. Write a song, even if you don’t know how to do it. Paint something, draw something. Don’t push yourself to be positive. Can you see what the darkness is? Sort of. Can you see what’s there? Grope around in it a little bit and find something beautiful. Because there is beauty in that. So that’s just something. I just find that whenever this transit comes in, I’ll have, like, clients in BBD in the telegram. Just being like, I was feeling really hopeful and now I just feel like everything is ending. 

Nicole Laino
I feel like it’s a really dark place that they enter. And I always have remind people, so that’s my little psa. That final week, you just might have that emotional. Especially if you’re not used to being emotional. If you’re open emotionally, it’s a doozy. So no promises that you’re going to feel that way. But if you do, just recognize this too shall pass. Just wait. Don’t make any big decisions. Don’t feel like you’ve got to move on something. Don’t push yourself to work harder. That will probably just make you feel worse. So just ask yourself, what would feel very nurturing to me right now? 

Christina Luna
I am so happy that you shared that. Because oftentimes when you know, I’m like, yeah, cut your losses and clear out. Like, empty it out, like. But in that empty space, you’re right. It does feel. It’s like dropping to the bottom of a well or dropping to the bottom of the ocean. Dropping into the darkness. But what we do have on May 31 is that full moon in Sag. That encouragement to channel into something creative. 

Nicole Laino
Truth. 

Christina Luna
It’s also finding. It reminds me of this moment when I was dropping into a really, really dark place when I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t. I was just alone. It was in the blackness. I heard this little whisper of a question, ask me in this space, do you still feel love? And I honestly still did. And the answer of yes seemed to spark an entire new cosmos. For me. And sometimes it’s a. It’s a gift to fall deeply into the darkness so that we can find a universal truth. That full moon in Sagittarius, that is a yes to something that is hopeful, is beautiful, is creative. But it does sometimes require dropping all the way to the bottom to see that little flicker of light. 

Nicole Laino
And so many people want to spend as little time at the bottom as they can. They want to get over it. They want to fix it. That’s honestly where a lot of the pain comes from. I gotta get out of this. Why do I feel this way? The mind trash that starts to come up when you start to feel not good. You start to wonder, why do I feel like this? What’s going on? Is it the transits? You know? Was that thing that I decided to do yesterday, Was that the wrong move to make? Oh, my God. Then you start looking for things. You start looking. Then you start looking at everything. And everything looks dark. I always say that this particular channel, when it hits a low, it’s like you put dark glasses on. So it’s not that bad, things look bad. 

Nicole Laino
It’s everything looks bad. Everything that you look at will look dark during that time. If you’re in the low of it, which can happen when we’re not used to things, when we get something new sometimes, you know, we’re not great at riding that wave yet. And it feels disorienting and it feels really deep because it’s so new to us. I was at this one hits me too. Like, I get it a lot, so. So I’m used to it, and I know what it is now. I just. The way that I deal with it is I learn to sit with it, and I learn to. Instead of thinking, I like to think of it. Instead of a low, I think of it as depth. I’m going to my depth. There’s something in the deep waters here that is trying to speak to me. 

Nicole Laino
So that’s when you journal. That’s when you pick up a guitar. 

Christina Luna
Or whatever it is that you do. 

Nicole Laino
And find something there. Like I always say, like this was not to pair it with such a tragic figure, but it’s like the Singer Songwriter channel. This is like Kurt Cobain had this channel. Don’t worry, it won’t end like that. But sad songs come from deep places, and they are the most beautiful sometimes. Like the ones that are. Part of the human experience is heartbreak. Part of the human experience is the depth. And when we try to fight that part of the human experience, we are fighting something that we are meant to have a relationship with. And anytime we do that, we block ourselves off from it. You block yourself off from the things that you want. So do you have anything else that you wanted to tell the people about or flag? I feel like we said a lot, actually, I do. 

Christina Luna
I have one final thing. Since the moment of that week, the encouragement is to remember that racing thoughts are rarely wise and that if we are trying to tread water really fast to stop drowning, that the racing thoughts we feel in that they’re not necessarily wise thoughts, they’re just trying to protect you or save you or keep you from dropping deeper. But there are really gold nuggets if you just surrender to dropping. And sometimes when we drop all the way to the bottom, it throws us out back onto the top. It’s like a speedway. The miracle again. And so that was this one little, last little thing I wanted to say. 

Nicole Laino
I love that it reminds me of the saying, you know, when emotions are high, intelligence is low, that it’s like, don’t try to be brilliant in this. Like, you know, when you’re flailing around fighting for your life. So I think that we said it all. I think we gave them a lot. I think we covered a lot. I said everything that I had on my list for the most part. And did you have anything. So you’re doing readings now? Just follow you on Instagramunation Live. 

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Christina Luna
That’s right. 

Nicole Laino
All right. And then for me, if you would like the coach’s guide to human design, I always look to say it wrong. The coach’s guide to human design does. To get that guide, it’s totally free. Just go to nicolelaino.com/coach or DM me coach on Instagram. I’m @nicolelainoofficial and we’ll send it to you there. Thanks so much. Thanks, Christina. And thanks for making it all the way to the end of this episode with us. Remember, in order to have an unshakeable business, you must first become an unshakable human. So thanks for letting us help you become unshakable with human design. We’ll see you next time. 

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