Episode 490:


Nicole Laino
Hello, and welcome to Unshakeable with Human Design. I’m your host, Nicole Laino. And it is not just me I’m am here with, of course, because it is the start of the month. It’s the start of July, so it was not the same without you in June. I held down the fort, but Christina Luna, thankfully, is with me. Hello, my friend. Welcome back. 

Christina Luna
Thank you. I missed you so much. It felt so wrong to not be with you on the last reading, on the last report. I’m so happy to be back. 

Nicole Laino
It felt weird. I was doing it, and I’m like, this is fine. I’m delivering everything. But, man, is it not only more fun for me, but I know the episodes are infinitely better when you bring your magic, because I bring my style to this, but. And I don’t think I’ve ever taken for granted how important your role is in here, but when I do it without you, I’m like, oh, we’re missing Christina’s Christina Ness. It’s not like there is a. I’m like, the grounded practical, and you’re like the fairy that comes in and sprinkles fairy dust all over everything. Let me tell you about, like, what this world looks like, and it was missing that, and I missed it. 

Christina Luna
Well, thank you so much for telling me that. And I actually have some human design stuff I want to talk to you about. Even though there was a little bit of a break, I went out into the world and explored all over the place energetically, and I have a lot to bring back to the hive. And I want to talk to you about something that you’ve touched on with human design, about how consciousness is sort of shifting into a bit of a hive experience. And can you talk about this a little more? Because I definitely think we get a window of what this will actually feel like this summer. 

Nicole Laino
This is one of those theories that I have to preface this. Put an asterisk around it next to it and say, okay, this is a theory that’s out there that came from Ra and a transmission from he downloaded this. So, like, you know, take it for what you will. We have no scientific proof that any of this is happening, but supposedly, along with the 2027 change, there is what’s causing part of the 2027 change. It’s not just the shift of the incarnation crosses. It is also a mutation in two gates. Because it’s. The gates are tied to an amino acid. So the amino acid, I believe it’s histidine is mutating. So it’s changing. The 55th gate and the 49th gate, they have this huge mutation that’s happening and they’re both sitting the solar plexus. So the solar plexus is mutating. So it’s changing. 

Nicole Laino
And the solar plexus in this little myth at this point the solar plexus picture it changing where it no longer is just this motorized emotion. What if emotions. Let’s play here a little bit. Emotions right now are. Just think about them. They’re like there’s energy. They’re energy in motion. They’re like. They’re a lot. They are something we have to deal with. We know that emotions also carry wisdom which is why we wait. Which is why emotionals have like passion and there’s wisdom. But it’s wisdom over time. In theory of this evolution. This mutation in the solar plexus is going to make the solar plexus an awareness center. So now let’s play with the idea of what if were aware through our emotions. 

Nicole Laino
Now I think where you’re getting the whole hive mind thing is I equated it to the Apple show Pluribus that when I saw. When I watched Plurib this. Did you watch it? 

Christina Luna
I saw it, yes. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. So that whole experience, I watched that and I was like did Vince Gilligan read about the raves and the human design change and this whole thing and make a show around some ideas that were planted there. Because I could see that being a take on what happens because according to the lectures and stuff by Ra is in this little myth of the future. It’s that people will be born with this mutation. They will not be humans anymore as we know them. They will be raves. And raves will be able to communicate through consciousness is an energetic. So it’s an evolution of consciousness. Some people will then take that. So now we have humans now reading that, hearing that. 

Nicole Laino
And they start to look at things in the world just like we do here where we see the transits and we’re like oh, this is a manifestation of that thing. This is what we do. We’re meaning makers. That’s what human beings are. Let’s make meaning out of this. And there’s nothing wrong with it. I think it’s part of our experience as humans is to try to like internalize and figure out the meaning of all of it. But some people will look at that and they will say. Because he’ll say that raves are not emotional like the rest of us and they don’t communicate like the rest of us and they’re going to be very different than the rest of us and we won’t understand them. And some people look at that and they say, oh, well, what if that’s autism? 

Nicole Laino
So some people have started. So while I don’t look at autistic kids and be like they’re raves because according to all of this, they couldn’t be yet because the mutation is not there. However, it did make me look at people with what we would consider mutations or kids with down syndrome or people with down syndrome. An extra chromosome, missing a chromosome. Like all of these things and it’s just like, are you just carrying something different? Not that I didn’t. Not that I looked at them harshly before, not at all. But it gave me a different lens where it’s just like, oh, are you just carrying something the rest of us haven’t experienced yet? Autistic kids and autistic people experience things on. It made me think about are they experiencing things on a frequency level? 

Nicole Laino
Which is why sensorially, life can be so much for them. They go in places and it’s just too much. Are they just receiving, Are they just highly tuned receivers where they don’t have the. None of this is meant to talk down. When I say ability, I’m not saying they don’t have an ability, but are they just so finely tuned, so highly tuned that it makes life difficult for them to handle because it’s all coming through, but it’s almost distorted because maybe they can’t handle all that’s coming through. They don’t have a filter for it. I don’t know. It just made me question things in a different way. Look at possibility and potentials in life as like, what if things aren’t the way that we think we see them? 

Nicole Laino
What if autism isn’t a disorder, which I never thought it was, but how we label people. And it’s just the same way I look at like generations and people will look at Gen Z and they will say that they are lazy and they are this. It’s like, what if they’re just more evolved out of this work mentality and we’re tied to something that’s dying and they’re more connected with someplace that. 

Christina Luna
We’re going, I don’t know. 

Nicole Laino
But rather than judging people, I’ve had the most fun with playing with these theories that are out there in ways like that. So that’s where the whole hive thing comes from. 

Christina Luna
Okay, I have things about that, but I have more questions because things have been opening up for me in massive ways. And I am realizing that these maps that we’re using and the timings that we’re attuned to, and then the way that we assimilate our translation of that into conversation, that can then be brought back to the hive and consumed as a podcast, which then goes into the consciousness of every listener and then actually pings off of understandings and awarenesses that they’ve been receiving from the morphic field. Right. There’s this morphic field that all of consciousness is swimming in. And I saw this reel today about how like there. There are a couple examples in the real. One of the examples was, why is it easier for people to complete crossword puzzles in the evening rather than the morning? 

Christina Luna
And maybe it’s because millions of people have already completed it by the evening. And so the morphic field has the wisdom of that crossword. And there’s. There were other examples as well. But we know that the morphic field is a thing that we’re starting to understand. We know that our pineal gland has some kind of influence on the way our intuition leads us through semi conscious reality. And I’m really curious about this Phoenix Cross glimpse of right now that and how that corresponds to some of the astrological shifts that are happening. And does it seem that there is some kind of Phoenix cross right now that we’re getting to experience right now that we’ll experience more of in 2027 moving forward. If been thrown down like a misinformation rabbit hole on Instagram about this through design or this is a real thing. 

Nicole Laino
That we’re in something right now that’s tied to the sleeping Phoenix. No, sure. We’ve talked about it on this show. So the nodes, first of all, we could go into this a little bit deeper. So Uranus being in. So you know that it’s in Gemini, to me, it’s in Gate 20 for human design, Gate 20 is one of the key gates in the Sleeping Phoenix. So we have that energy. So if you look at it from a Uranian perspective of Uranus being in it, we’re all getting a lesson in this. Like, that’s the outer planets. I don’t need to tell you it’s for the listeners. But with the Outer planets. It’s just sort of like, okay, well, this is a bike we’re learning to ride for a bit. Humanity is learning to ride this. 

Nicole Laino
We’re learning to develop this skill, trust in this thing, this gift, whatever, or succumb to the shadow for the entire time, which will probably be really uncomfortable. So we’ll either grow through it or you’ll complain the whole time and life will feel unfair. So we have that. But what’s more interesting to me, or what I think is more on the nose with what you are talking about, is the beginning of the year. So since the beginning of the year up until I have it marked on my calendar to talk about today, up until the end of this month, we have been in two of the polarities. The nodes have been in the two polarities of two of the gates. Two different sets of gates that are part of the Cross of Planning and then the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. 

Nicole Laino
So from like January until, like, April or whatever, were in the 3740, which is part of the Cross of Planning. So it was like we got to. It’s almost like the nodes from a human design perspective. The way we look at the nodes is that if you thought about this, like. Like you were watching like a kid’s talent show. And there’s like, acts of 9th grade is going to do the presidents, and there’s the set that comes around and then presidents walk out and first ladies walk out. Like, all the characters and stuff change so you can watch the whole president thing play out. So we had that stage was set for the Cross of planning and the 4037, which is all about bargains. So we saw business people and we saw deals being made and we saw bargains being broken. 

Nicole Laino
We saw people getting married. All of these, I take care of you take care of me. Here we’ve got a deal. All of that, we got to see that. We got to see the worshiping of work. We got to see the fear of work going away. We got to see loyalty. And the absence of loyalty was when we had the ice raids and all of that going on. It’s wow, who are we loyal to? So many questions, right? So that was the stage. But then in April, ish, something like that, March, April, someone came and wiped that stage clean. All the presidents and first ladies and everybody, they all ran away. All the business people ran away. And then we got the 5559, which is part of the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. 

Nicole Laino
The nodes shifted into those two gates, which are where we are going. So we watched, we had the stage set for where we have been. We all got to experience that. And now we’ve got a little taste of where we’re going. Where we’re going is the 55, 59. So now we get some mystical folks. We get some. We’re going to get some people really playing with sexuality on that stage. We’re going to get people that are super in tune with their spirituality and are like, it’s the manifestation people. You’re going to see people playing the victim here. You’re going to see people who are totally in their power and they believe that emotions are the key to the universe and abundance is an emotional frequency and not a material wealth or product or anything like that. 

Nicole Laino
And so that’s the stage that we’re on until the end of this month, and we will shift out. So this whole year we have been playing on the stage of our old paradigm and our new paradigm. Two key polarities from each of the crosses. And then we had Uranus move into gemini into that 20th gate we’ve had. Yeah. So, I mean, it’s all been there. And this is. Has been life this year. It’s very interesting you brought this up right before. It’s about change. I. 

Christina Luna
Because I’m feeling it from my own vantage point, obviously. And I was like, I know this is what Nicole is talking about. I’m somatically experiencing this. And what is the. What parts of the map are we pointing at right now? And also, where does it move to after the end of this month? 

Nicole Laino
So on the 25th, 24th, 25th, depending on your time zone, it will shift into the pairing of the 30 and the 29, which it’s. We’re going to see a different play showing up here. That will be the following cross. We’re not going to that one. But this one will be more about. You might see people for the next several months, maybe people either saying yes to things that they shouldn’t or learning the lessons of saying yes to the things that they shouldn’t. Maybe feeling like we can feel like victims here as well with the 30th gate, but we can see 30 is the gate of desire. It’s an emotional gate. These are both collective gates that have to do with experience. I think there’s going to be a lesson here about life isn’t logical. 

Christina Luna
Okay. Oh, my God. I love how articulate you have been about all of this. 

Nicole Laino
Thank you. I think about it all the time. 

Christina Luna
I mean, I get to have these conversations with you, because you are you. Oh, God, you’re brilliant. Okay. Yes. So I felt a dramatic shift energetically starting in April. And of course I have all these things I can point to because it’s the new astrological year. It was the Saturn and Neptune into Aries. It was. I’ve got all the rational reasons for why this feels different, and yet it feels so different. For the longest time I’ve been saying Pluto moving into Aquarius is bringing us into a 20 year time period where ultimately we are bringing our individual voices, our individual selves. That’s the polarity point of Pluto in Aquarius is over there in Leo. And we’re about to head into LEO season. We’re in Cancer season right now. We will have a transition into Leo season. We’re gonna have Jupiter into Leo. 

Christina Luna
We have Venus in Leo right now. We’re pretty much in Cancer LEO territory right now as we’re recording this and as we move through the next month. And I believe those energies are pivotal in helping us to go into a mess, go into an emotion, go into an experience. Let the mind go, let the order go, let all of the stories we’ve told up until this point, let them go so that we can be uncertain and in the moment and completely evolved by an experiential bubble that will last longer than we’re comfortable with, that will last long enough that we will lose our grip on what we rationally believe was going on here. Because there’s something much bigger that’s trying to load. 

Christina Luna
And until you really let go of the old stories, the old myths, the old, even entertainments that reinforced the morphic field, that kind of keeps things at a certain consciousness consensus. From my perspective, this morphic field that we’re all a part of, that we all learn in it, contains everything from the simplest consciousness that humans can have to the highest, most complex consciousness that humans can have. And it’s limited by those two defining polarities. Polarities, exactly. However, we start to see in the collective a distaste for stories that feel outdated, that feel no longer powerful. Like part of what you said about the gate that releases the planning, all the institutions and all of these things, contracts that we agreed to that kept us safe. 

Christina Luna
I agree, I’ll pay my taxes if the government takes care of me or whatever makes my road safe or whatever. Like whatever these contracts are, we are starting to feel like they are expired. And we don’t want stories that reinforce that field anymore. So we want new stories, fresh stories. So there’s a bit of agitation in the field, there’s a bit of desire, longing, there’s a bit of messiness. We’re rejecting certain things, we’re attracting different things. And as we’re doing that, we’ve got to let go of our attachment to also the known reality, the known stories, the known mythology. Got to let go of it. And the only way we’ll really let go of it is if we go through a period of time similar to like a water slide. 

Christina Luna
A water slide that doesn’t allow you to stop, but you’ve got to just keep going through and it just takes you. And hopefully when you wash out of the bottom, you think it was a fun time, but that’s subjective sometimes. Water slide is terrifying. It’s my most terrifying experience as a human. I’m not interested in water slides. However, I believe we’re going to go through a water slide in July. 

Nicole Laino
Are you terrified? 

Christina Luna
Well, normally I would be, but I feel like I’ve been given a lot of. A lot of support to ready my nervous system for the experience. And I believe that’s why I do the work that I do. I actually feel like my nervous system needs to repeat these patterns over and over for all these other people to see that they can go down the water slide and end up somewhere at the end of August when we get to Virgo season, end up somewhere that’s actually new and productive. We’re gonna enter Virgo season free from that south node presence. The nodes will have shipped by this Virgo season. So any Virgo sensibilities and structures, things that were in place, they expired. The 18 year Virgo cycle expired, got rerouted, then went to the water slide. 

Christina Luna
We get to end up in Virgo and we get to build from a fresh new discernment. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, I mean, I would agree with that, especially from the point that you brought up. Because I think that the one other keynote that I wanted to put Here, the 55th gate, is the gate of spirit. So it’s almost like we’re going from loyalty and bargains to spirit and authenticity. That’s the two polarities there. I have been having so many conversations with clients. Almost every client, the conversation. This is happening to you too, where it’s like you’re circling the same topic, but everybody’s bringing a different version of it to the table. It’s the same things I’ve been feeling and soaking in as well, which are I don’t feel very motivated. I don’t feel suddenly it’s just like the drive of humanity to grow and expand. 

Nicole Laino
And in all the ways that have been like life in the past, suddenly they’re just like, I don’t know why, but I don’t care anymore. And some of these people are like super successful, Dre driven people where, like, it was their whole life, and now they’re like, what’s wrong with me? And it’s like. And this is why I am grateful for this work. Because I’m like, look, I understand the feeling. Because when we feel a shift internally in ourselves so much like it is a shakeup, you are like, what the hell happened? But when you know about all of this other stuff, it’s like, this is what’s happening. And to me, I’m just. There’s always some way. I’ve been thinking about this cross of planning, cross of sleeping Phoenix shit for years now, contemplating it for years. And I had. 

Nicole Laino
I was telling somebody today about this that I said six years ago, when I discovered this, I had an idea of. And the conversations around what was going to happen in 2027 and what it would look like were very different. Like, people had very apocalyptic and people like, you know, oh, the systems are going to crash. And it was very vague, but also dark. And I just didn’t subscribe to the unsubscribe. Thank you. Not really. I’m not in it for that. Thanks. You don’t know that. So I was like, I don’t need to engage with that. But I’d had my own contemplations about this stuff. And it’s just so funny sitting here now where it’s just like, oh, shit. I like some things I’m sort of close, and then other things, I’m just like, wow, I didn’t. 

Nicole Laino
I see it everywhere now, but it’s like, this is different than I thought it would materialize. It’s so interesting. I didn’t think about everybody not wanting it anymore. 

Christina Luna
Right. 

Nicole Laino
And what happens when we stop wanting it all? 

Christina Luna
Okay, so this, I think one of the influences that’s relieving us from our wanting of the thing is because for the last seven years, we had Chiron moving through Aries, Uranus moving through Taurus. So because they both coincided with the last seven years, that means it started in 2019. And out of four I was working with at the beginning of 2020 was, wow, we’ve all been given brand new bicycles, and they have training wheels on them, and they’re magical and they can take us anywhere. But the training wheels are coming off in March. And that’s when the pandemic began. Training wheels are coming off, and people are going to fall off their bicycles because the bicycle is actually a meaning maker that makes reality. 

Christina Luna
So when our meaning maker makes reality out of fear, then our bicycle falls down, and some of us will get back on the bicycle and make meanings that feel like we’ll get back on the bike. So some of us will get back on the bike and continue making meanings, being like, ouch, that one hurt. Oop, I’m not going to lean that way anymore. So it started training us in 2020. By the end of 2020, the people who got on the bikes were like, okay, I’m learning how to make meanings. I’m going to make meaning through this, and I’m going to hone my gift skills and talents, and I’m also going to lead other people in the meaning making. I’m going to step out into the world. 

Christina Luna
I’m going to look at what’s going on for the entire hive, because it’s not just me on this bicycle. We’re all on bicycles out there, and everyone’s making meanings on their bicycles. So we better get aware of this. And there were some people that decided to never get back on the bike, to just let themselves be driven around by whatever meanings the entire collective was making. So there’s like a median consciousness that’s just allowing meaning to be made for them. Nothing wrong with that. We need people to gobble up whatever the consensus is, okay? We need the people on the bikes trying to push the envelope of what meanings are actually available to us. So we did this all through the last seven years. Meaning makers and meaning gobblers, right? So what healed in that seven years is our worthiness, our claim to life. 

Christina Luna
And so anything that we did during the last seven years to prove were worthy of believing and feeling and being alive and knowing what we know and taking a breath. All of that got proven. All of that got healed in the last seven years. While were doing that, were revolutionizing the way we used materials. While Uranus went through Taurus, we decided what was essential, what we could afford, what created status. Everything that we bought was a revolution toward healing our value, our internal intrinsic value. So we had huge movements of wealth in the last seven years. People that were struggling and hustling proved their worth, healed their worth, got the material goods to prove with the receipts. Look at this. I went from $2,000 a month to 10k months. And this is how I did it. 

Christina Luna
Because I’m worthy, because I know on my worth. And it’s a frequency and it’s a vibration. Let me tell you about how to do it, because I’m a bee that went out and found that flower, and I’m bringing it back to the hive because we’re in this thing together and we know it. And I’m limited by your experience. Even though I love you, I still hope that we can bring the entire collective to a different level of consciousness so that we’re not so scared. So then we get this transition this year where Chiron is now in Taurus and Uranus is now in Gemini. So we’re no longer having to purchase things or bring things into our life to prove that we’re worthy. We’ve already proven that. 

Christina Luna
So all of our buying and shopping habits, all of the desire, all the want is going to change because guess what? We don’t want something because it gives us status and worthiness. We want something because we actually crave it. That actually tastes good. It feels good. We don’t want it because it makes us look better. We want it because we really want it. So now we’re healing our relationship with want for the next seven years. And simultaneously, Uranus is saying, because you’re a meaning maker, because literally everything you think is actually affecting the bubble of the morphic field that human consciousness is encapsulated in. So we’re at the beginning of that. From my perspective. 

Nicole Laino
Okay, now I have a question. Yes, I love all of that, but now I just curious, how do you see just another outer planet that changed signs? So were in the Neptune in Pisces season, just all of that, like, dreamer and energetic, like the whole manifestation craze. All of these things that kind of, I think, bloomed and really flourished in that type of environment. Then going into, from Pisces into Aries, which is obviously very different vibes. How do you see that playing with this whole scenario? 

Christina Luna
I love that you asked me that, because it is a really important piece of the puzzle. Let’s talk about Pluto, because that was the first one to really initiate the big changes. And then we’ll talk about Saturn and Neptune. Okay. For listeners that are not super immersed in the language of astrology, we have planets that are outside of the realm of visible visibility. So the planets that we could see visibly with telescopes and the technology that we had when were developing astrology, we call those the personal planets. And they affect us personally in our personal lives. They’re individualistic planets. But the planets outside of that feel that range which include Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. Also Chiron moves in and out of range. We didn’t even know about Chiron until 1977. That’s a whole nother talk. Those are gonna impact collective consciousness. 

Christina Luna
Those affect the morphic field, those affect culture, trend tastes, larger economic patterns, et cetera. So this year, all of those big planets changed, every single one of them. And what they were doing in the last long cycle was preparing us for the new cycle. So while Neptune was moving through Pisces, it was actually pulling up all the Akashic records. It was pulling up all the multidimensional information available to us. Soul. And many people had huge Kundalini awakenings, Soul awakenings. We had the awakening of Internet astrology. We had the awakening of connecting to each other through algorithms, Almost like intuitive algorithms, almost like we had people pooling into tribes. We had groups forming based on taste and pleasure and interest. And all of these things. We experienced connection that seemed like it was woven almost invisibly by whatever, by spirit. So synchronicities on point, right? 

Christina Luna
That whole cycle started in 2008 when Pluto moved into Capricorn. So Pluto moved into Capricorn. It was pretty much like, get ready, because it’s all gonna change. You all have to find your internal value. You all have to get in touch with the legacy that you came here to leave through many of your lifetimes. While I’m asking you to pull your legacy through every soul incarnation of yourself into this one life, I’m going to put you through a curriculum of becoming an expert in your field. So we all became experts in some kind of Earth based, tangible field, While Pluto moved through Capricorn. And Neptune made us feel around in the dark. Neptune sort of melted the physical interface in a certain way so that we would be disillusioned. 

Christina Luna
We would project twin flames onto lovers, and we would feel like a loss of connection to the tradition of marriage. In certain ways, we would lose, like, the illusion of corporations holding you and giving you a Rolex when you retire or whatever. It just blurred all of that stuff. The same way that I think this summer is going to blur the shit out of reality emotionally and energetically and passionately. It did this on a spiritual level over a long period of time. So we lost our tether to the things we used to hook into. And then we became masters of our own legacy through the teens of the 2000s. Then we hit this initiation point with the two planets, with Chiron and Uranus, moving into those places in 2019 or so to give us the 2020s, you can talk about what literally happened. 

Christina Luna
But all of that was just a mushrooming body of what was actually going on in the subconscious. It just. There was a mushrooming body. We had a massive, like, Ayahuasca trip where we faced our own fear and mortality with the COVID virus, right? It put us all in touch with our, like, how temporary and mortal we actually are, or how much we don’t trust. Whatever came from all of that, it was still part of Neptune in Pisces. So all of that stuff shifted now. All of it brought us through it. When it all kicked into Aries, it was saying, okay, we’re at phase one of a new cycle. We’re at phase one of whatever you energetically imagine manifests Neptune. Whatever you energetically put your attention and focus to, whatever layer of consciousness you attend to energetically, it is going to manifest that Saturn. 

Christina Luna
Saturn’s going to put that structure into place. So we got that coming in, and we immediately started feeling the restriction, the expansion, the new land of this new world that we just entered into with all these. There’s new tricks, there’s new talents, there’s new things available, there’s new psychic abilities, there’s new mutations, there’s new stories. All of it’s new. But we don’t have any idea what’s available because we’re still feeling around for what is known. Because we’re very afraid of the unknown. We’re very uncomfortable with things that are not defined really well. And so the first phase of this is suddenly losing a taste for the operating systems that we’ve already healed. We don’t long for the lover. When we finally healed the wound that we experienced from that lover, like, it removes the charge. 

Christina Luna
And so the same way that were deeply desirous to have the receipts for our worth, we’ve healed it. I do not have to prove to anyone that I know what I’m talking about anymore. I don’t give a shit. I know that I know. And I know that it’s weird. And I know that probably some people resonate, some people don’t. I don’t care. That used to not be my truth. I used to bring a lot of technical information to the table because I was still like, please believe me. I’ll prove it over and over to you. I’ll have hundreds of people telling me that all of my readings are deeply accurate as long as I need to. Because I’m still working out my worth in this thing, right? So now it’s all different. If we don’t have to prove anything. What’s actually valuable? 

Christina Luna
What is actually valuable? They. You’ll find the marketing people saying, authenticity and the real. And yes, those are all ways that the collective is trying to talk about this shift. But it’s a thing you feel and know that you don’t even have to buy. You don’t have to buy it. You don’t have to. It’s so valuable and it’s so available that everything that comes from this we’ll see giant market collapses. We’ll see everything. Like things that used to feel like very, whatever, completely overrated. There’s no longer a drive, there’s no longer a pull. And we’re finding the authentic desires that we have in ourself because we are beginning to create a whole new reality, a whole new one. And it has to be built on actual, real things, not the bubble of illusion. 

Nicole Laino
Well, I keep thinking as you’re saying this. I keep. I feel like if you put a banner over 2026, it would say, when it all began. We are at that starting gate, or just before it, of we don’t even know yet. And what you’re saying there about we don’t have to buy it, we don’t have to work for it, we don’t have to prove it. It’s true. We don’t have to prove it. But not everybody. I don’t think everybody learned that lesson in the past. And I don’t think because I know from, like, the people that I talk to, there’s so much confusion and people go into really into hyperdrive sometimes into what they do know because it’s so ungrounding and it’s so scary and the unknown is so unfamiliar to them that I think there are things that we still need to learn. 

Nicole Laino
I don’t know if you need to buy it, but way we need to train ourselves is to now it’s like the curriculum just changed. It’s not that there aren’t things to learn. We’re human. We’ll be learning things till the end of our days. But what we’re learning, and I think that is the part that’s so interesting for me in this too, where it’s, oh, I don’t even feel called to teach things the way that I taught them before. I think about, like, the certification and the way that I’m teaching them. Like when you do a reading and I’m talking to them about how you teach this stuff, and I’m like, anytime that you are obsessing over answering somebody’s question or figuring it out for them. 

Nicole Laino
I want you to recognize that’s you not feeling worthy, that you’re trying to prove to them that you know enough. And my job is to keep you in the place that’s important so that they can have the experience they need and they get the transmission they need. And that’s a hard thing. Like, you have to really. And I couldn’t do that years ago. I did, like, just what you did. Two Virgos doing readings, being like, hey, let me show you all that I know. I swear that I’m good enough. I swear. Please tell your friends, don’t tell them that I suck, because I’m afraid the most that I suck. And I’ll work harder, I promise. And it is like there’s the evolution of ourselves and then there’s this evolution of consciousness that we’re going into. This episode took a beautiful turn. 

Nicole Laino
This is so fun. But I think that this might be a good segue. We’ll jump ahead in the month, but because we’ve been talking about the outer planets so much and their positions and everything, it might be worth mentioning the configuration that they’re all going to be making that it’s like a symphony of planetary connections in the end to middle of the month. Like, it’s like the 19th of July. Do you want to run through the list of Jupiter opposes Pluto? I can go through it. You can go through it. Everything is at 4 degrees. So that’s. And whenever we get planets at the same degrees, they will form. Not always, but if they’re certain distances apart, they will form aspects to each other. And what’s interesting about these are they’re pretty much favorable aspects. 

Nicole Laino
They’re nice ones for some challenging planets, we could say for some to have them all be in supportive connection with each other. It’ll be an interesting time to be alive and mark your calendar to just check in with all of this. But we’ve got. The list I had was Jupiter opposes Pluto, Jupiter, sextiles, Uranus, Jupiter Trines, Neptune, Uranus, sextiles Neptune, Uranus, Trines, Pluto is Pluto sextiles Neptune. 

Christina Luna
Yes. All of that happening right before Mercury turns direct in cancer. All of that happening after Uranus. And also something for people who follow numerology. They’re all at four degrees, but they already. They’re standing on four. And they’re working in the fifth degree. So you understand how fives work. Four is when something stabilizes. Five is when you can actually step on that thing and create change. Step on it and like Create movement. So we’re there at 4. But the mistake that we could make is, oh, something came into a 4 stabilization. It did. And it’s meant to be a stone that we step upon because that’s what’s putting us into the next. And it could feel like there’s so much. Do you know all the things that have to happen in your body to take a step from one level to the next level. 

Christina Luna
There’s like energy and passion and focus. Starting to put pressure on that top foot and then there’s like a pushing off of the bottom foot and then there’s more energy on the new one and then less energy on the back one. And like the whole movement, it happens so gracefully in the human body. But in consciousness, we could really struggle to know whether or not we can trust ourselves to go up these stairs. We don’t always have consciousness, muscle memory the same way that we have muscle memory going upstairs. I hope that listeners for this podcast have consciousness, muscle memory as we take this step, because that is. We’ve done it. We’ve done this many times. Even though this is a brand new time, we have moved in these ways as entrepreneurs, as businesswomen, as businessmen, as. 

Nicole Laino
You know, I do say there are men who listen to the show. We don’t want to leave them out. 

Christina Luna
That’s right. 

Nicole Laino
They’ve gone through this, too. 

Christina Luna
As humans. We have gone through these things in this life, in previous lives, in future lives. All of it’s available. And this is just one of those moments. And if we can let go of the mind. Because if you think about all of those muscles trying to do their job, to take a step, and you really focus on thinking about it, you’re going to get in your head about it and you’re going to forget how to climb stairs. Even though you’ve done it a million times. The energy is let go of your having to observe and consciously push these muscles up the stairs. What if you just do it? 

Nicole Laino
What if you just do it? I think there’s a just with it being like with Jupiter is in Leo. The sun is going to be going into Leo right after that. You know, it’s about me and it’s about my boldness. I think everything you just said. But for me. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
Just for yourself. 

Christina Luna
Yes. 

Nicole Laino
Do you take the step in faith for you? Not because it will get some result or it might have. I think that is one of the big headlines of all of these shifts. That nodal change that I talked about that happens on the 25th. So right at the end of that week, it starts the week with this configuration, which will last a little bit. Not all of them will stay in it, but there’s quite a few of them that are already in aspect to each other. But it just happens to do this crazy constellation connection in the sky, but with the nodes changing. The sun moves into Leo that week, all of that, those nodes are about just letting go of it, needing to make sense, if anything, that the abstract process teaches us, which. 

Nicole Laino
The abstract process, and both of these are on the emotional side of the chart. They’re not both emotional gates, but gate 30 and gate 29 are both about an experiential energy. It can’t be planned, it can’t be perfected. It can only be lived. And when we are focused on getting it right, we don’t get it at all. So that feels like very much. I think 55 and 59 are part of that. You know, what we’re in right now. But I think we’re really moving into that. And we all know that once we get really close to these energies, we feel them, we’re within orb of them changing over of them moving. And that has an effect on us. So you’ll probably be feeling all of this coming. 

Nicole Laino
And maybe it is about saying yes to things, maybe it is about saying no to things that don’t really serve you. But what’s the experience that you want to have and how are you denying yourself that? Because the 30th gate is the gate of the Fates. And the shadowy side of this is to not do anything at all. Because you’re like, life’s just gonna come in and screw it all up anyway, so what’s the point? And then you have a life that’s not lived. So I think that’s our next challenge after this. Like there is a shift here from that 17th of July forward and then that nodal change. I think it is asking us to really experience the joy and to live. And to ask yourself, where are you not living? 

Nicole Laino
Because maybe you’re committing to the wrong shit and you’re over committing to the wrong shit. 

Christina Luna
That’s right. You know, Leo is like. If I put a sign over the place where Leo exists in people’s charts, I would say this is the place where you find what makes life worth living for you. This is the spot. Look here, Dig. This is where it is all of this relevant. Literally everything that happens relevant to what is going on during this Leo season. 

Nicole Laino
Being boldly, you showing up and just being decked out and like I love how I look, I love how I feel, and I want everybody to see it. 

Christina Luna
That’s right. 

Nicole Laino
And that’s not ego. And I think as we go into this individual age, we have to stop looking at our individual contribution as somehow egoic. Or to use a word from my youth, conceited. Do you remember conceited? 

Christina Luna
Ooh, it was a bad. 

Nicole Laino
Nobody says that anymore. 

Christina Luna
Nobody. 

Nicole Laino
The worst thing you could say. 

Christina Luna
The worst thing you could say. 

Nicole Laino
She’s so conceited. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, she’s so conceited. Because she knows she’s beautiful. Because she walks around like she knows she’s beautiful. 

Nicole Laino
And any girl who dared to like herself too much was called conceited and shamed for it. At least where I grew up, that’s how it was. And we wonder why we’re conditioned out of our power. Well, I think LEO season is telling us and Jupiter in leo, and there’s so much of this LEO energy happening, and it’s in a good place right now. It’ll probably be a little bit taxed later on in the year, the Jupiter LEO connection. But now is that time. And then we’ve got New Moon right before that week starts. So set your intentions on the 14th and really look at what is it that you are. You can use the term calling in. What are you attuning to? 

Christina Luna
Yeah, I feel like we didn’t go into a lot of detail about all the blow by blows, but I think that’s appropriate. What I will say is that I’ve been having a lot of conversations about the value of the human consciousness and her desires, hers and his desires, that the earth is what grows the grain. It brings this pure potential. And then the human decides she wants a cake. So she goes out, she collects the grain, she mills the grain, she puts the grain together with ingredients, she bakes the grains, and then she ices the cake and then she eats it and she delights in it. And our delight and our desire and our wanting is what actually drives that entire process. 

Christina Luna
And we are humans are the creative and incredibly intelligent interface that takes the raw materials of the earth and turns it into cake, turns it into delight, because we’re connected to our desires. And so I believe that Leo is asking us to get in touch with what it is we really desire. Why did we choose to be alive if we didn’t have to prove our worth anymore, if we didn’t have to claim our life, if we could actually be completely in touch with what we really want? Can we let that drive the behaviors and the Thoughts and the stories and the movements and everything. Can we let it be the driver for a time? We don’t have to do it forever, but let’s go. And by the time we get to Virgo season. Let’s make that cake. 

Nicole Laino
I love cake. 

Christina Luna
I love cake. 

Nicole Laino
I’m down for making a cake. I did want to. I did have one date circled, which is that July 4th weekend. We have Mars conjunct Uranus. We have. We’re in gate 39, which is the Gate of Provocation. This is a time I just wanted to flag that it might feel not great or jarring or something there. Gate of Provocation can also feel it’s in a pressure center. So it could feel like pressure. And just with the Mars Uranus configuration there I was. Is this gonna feel not awesome if it doesn’t. If you don’t feel like fireworks that weekend, don’t think that there’s something wrong with you. 

Nicole Laino
But it is a time that you can be looking just those energies of those first two weeks that we didn’t really talk about much because we focus so much on the end is the 39th gate and the 53rd gate. 39Th gate starts on July 1st. On the 7th, we go into the 53rd gate. It goes from the Gate of Provocation, which is provoking, to a higher level of spirit. It is saying, like you. The question there is saying, where are you taking for granted your real purpose, your real desires? It’s going to be that the best friend that like won’t let you off the hook. That’s going to hold you accountable to what you said you wanted. That’s kind of what that first week does. And then we’ve got that. We have that added energy to it there. 

Nicole Laino
And then the 53rd gate says, what do we want to start? What new beginning? What new cycle? 53Rd gate is the gate of new cycles of things being born. It’s going to ask you, okay, you’re going to provoke me to a higher level of spirit. What do I want and what do we want to start? Where are we looking to connect with something new? If those first two weeks feel a little squishy or not. Awesome introspection there. And then you have the new Moon. That following week on the 14th, you can ask yourself those questions and then set some good intentions going into the new Moon. 

Christina Luna
That’s a really good way to summarize those first two weeks. I feel like we’re gonna definitely have some awarenesses that definitely have expired and we’re going to be moving differently from in those two weeks. Because either we out of necessity or out of what we just have to our emotional self, our nervous system self, it says that we can’t not do it anymore. We can’t ignore it. We just have to, let’s go, let’s move it, let’s be with it. And it feels like it could cause us to get really, like, in the details and mourning a sunk cough of something that we’ve let go of. There’s a little bit of that kind of energy around the 12th or the 10th or so. 

Christina Luna
And the encouragement is, yeah, a couple of things might not have gone the way you thought they were going to go, but guess what? You’re all part of this bigger gift that we’re receiving right now. Like, don’t cry over the spilled milk. There’s. It’s going into the bedrock and it’s going to make these really crazy milk flowers. 

Nicole Laino
Like, make these milk flowers. And I did not have milk flowers on my bingo card for today, but I’m happy you brought them up. I just wanted to circle back to one thing that you were talking about earlier, when in the vein of what you were just saying that, you know, just because it didn’t work out maybe the way that you thought or whatever, it’s back to that meaning making that you were talking about. What’s the meaning that you’re making out of everything? And I think that going into all of everything that we started this whole conversation with about where we’re going and the changing of consciousness and everything, it’s going to be about the meaning that you make out of everything. 

Nicole Laino
It’s going to be about whether you think a failure is a failure or if you think it’s a learning experience, does it affect you emotionally where you’ve let it affect your energy and now you feel like your life is over? Or do you just say, like, it’s just part of the process and if you can really energetically be in that place, you’ll be fine. If you can’t be in that place energetically, then things will probably be hard. And you’re going to wonder why, because you’re going to look to a logical answer for it. And it’s, we’re exiting the logical world. We always say that. 

Nicole Laino
Like, when I look at the cross of planning and I did a workshop on the cross of planning and the cross of the Sleeping Phoenix, and I lay the two of them side by side in all of the gates, and I talk about the circuitry for all of them, whether they’re Tribal, abstract, logical, collective, individual. I labeled them all. And the new era has no logic. Zero. So it’s like, guys, you gotta get. If the logic isn’t making sense anymore and it doesn’t feel like it connects anymore, and it doesn’t feel like the away anymore, the reason is because it’s not. And it’s so hard to trust that because it has been such a core part of everything up until now. It’s why this shift is so big and so crazy for so many people. But what do you have going on? 

Christina Luna
I wish I had a T shirt that said, the future is not rational. 

Nicole Laino
The future is not logical. We should make shirts. We. I bet if we sat down, we could come up with several shirts that we could make that would fit some of the isms we have on the show. Do you have anything going on that you want the people to know about? Do you have. Outside of following you on Instagram and all of the things. 

Christina Luna
Just. Instagram’s the place. I’m writing from inside the field. I’m writing from the experience realm right now on my Instagram, and it’s very personal right now. I have a tendency to go personal during these personal times. And then more like cosmic collective as we get into Virgo season. So I will be reporting from the front lines. There’s quite a July will be so interesting. And I think that if there’s one last thing I want to say, we will end the month with returned passion, with passion that is actually innate to the human experience. It will be real, It’ll be felt and real. And it might come in ways that you were not expecting. A little bit of disorder is what creates the space for that passion to drop back in. But by the end of the month, we’ll know what fires us up again. 

Christina Luna
So we’re feeling as though we’re not really sure where that flame is coming from. Just know that July is designed to start that flame again from a place that will never go out. It won’t go out again. It’s lit for the new era. It’s just that the old light had to kind of flicker up. And that’s what I wanted to leave everyone with for July. 

Nicole Laino
I love that. And that’s a perfect note to end on. One thing I wanted everybody to know I have a workshop going on the 7th of July, if you want to join us. The replays will be available for purchase after, so you can certainly. If you’re listening to this after July 7th, you can certainly catch up with it and purchase it. If this topic interests you, but we’re doing it on the conscious sun, which is your brand gate, which is all about like how to make your brand actually come from within you and not something that you’re looking at the outside world and figuring out logic, what would make sense and all of that. How do we actually start to shine our light and let that be the thing that we lead with? If you’re interested in that, just DM me “depth” on Instagram. 

Nicole Laino
I’m @nicolelainoofficial or go to nicolelaino.com/depth and you can grab it there. Do you have anything other than Instagram right now you want people to know about? 

To purchase the Conscious Sun: Make Your Brand Match Your Depth Masterclass, go to nicolelaino.com/depth or DM Nicole “DEPTH” on Instagram 

Christina Luna
I’m closing out my quarterly readings right now. There’s still room. I will still entertain quarterly readings in the month of July, sporadically. So if someone’s definitely called. But I will be honest, it is not the best month to get a quarterly reading. I’m gonna be like dancing naked under the moonlight. All my brain won’t actually be very logical. So if that isn’t interesting to you could definitely get in my queue. That will start at the end of August for the last hour. So that’s. That would be my only thing. 

Nicole Laino
And if you wanna dance naked with her under the moonlight, then DM her as well. She’s maybe there’s room in her on her calendar for. For some duo dancing naked in the moonlight. 

Christina Luna
Let’s read. 

Nicole Laino
Well, have a great July, my friend. And to you listening. We love you, we appreciate you. We hope you enjoyed this. I had fun doing this episode. This was really fun for me. I hope that the listeners enjoyed this as much because we sort. We went off on tangents, but I felt like we brought it home. I felt like it’s. This all made sense and is on point for the mission of our show. Thank you for being here, my friend. I appreciate you. And we appreciate you listener, for being here all the way to the end with us. Remember, in order to have an unshakable business, you must first become an unshakable human. So thanks for letting us help you become unshakable with human design. We’ll see you next time.