Nicole: Hello and welcome to the Limitless Entrepreneur Podcast everyone. I’m your host, Nicole Laino, and I’m so excited. I have a guest with me today. I love guest episodes, but this is actually a really special episode. One because this is somebody who I know and love and I’m really excited that she was the winner of, I swear I didn’t rig it.

It was an automatic randomized choice. But she won our first human design reading here on the show. She submitted her review for the show and submitted and then put it in. Her Instagram stories tagged me. That was her entry and she was picked at random and she won. It’s Miss Daisy Mack. And Daisy Mack. I love and adore her.

We met fairly recently, but she made her way into my heart very quickly, which she does with a lot of people. And I’m excited to bring her here to you and to dive into her chart with her because we haven’t really done that before. This will be a first for us. Daisy’s a certified integrative nutritional health coach, a yoga instructor and breathwork and stress management expert.

She’s also a former music industry mogul. She was working in the music industry, burnt out on that. I’m going to let her tell that story because it’s really interesting how she ended up in this space. I think that she and I share that journey with corporate of thinking you’re doing what you want, thinking you have it all, and then really burning out hard and being like what am I doing with my life and having to make that big choice of that hard choice of the world maybe looking at you like, what are you doing? You’re leaving this job, you’re leaving all of this to go do what you don’t even know to go find yourself. It sounds pretty crazy.

So I applaud her. She’s a sister in that regard, where we’ve both taken that big leap together. And I’m excited to bring her here with you. She is also, I’ll give you the highlight of her chart. She is also a five one pure generator, so that means she’s a sacral authority generator and she’s a five one just like me.

And we’re going to be diving into her chart in just a moment. But before that, Daisy, welcome to the show. Thank you for being here. 

Daisy: Oh, thank you for having me. It’s such a treat to be here. I love the podcast. Give me a little bit of Taylor Swift and Prince Harry’s Human Design anytime. That is what I want to listen to when I’m driving around in my car or going for a walk. This is the sort of the culture space. I need to be in. 

Nicole: Oh, I’m so happy that you are here, and I’m happy you enjoy those episodes. I find them really fun to do. I think that it’s fun to take somebody that we all know and be like, no, let’s look at their design and let me tell you a little bit about them, about maybe some of the things that could be coming up and why.

So tell everybody a little bit about you. I gave a really fast intro, so tell them more about what you do and your company, which is spiritual mixtape. Tell everybody what that’s all about. 

Daisy: So spiritual mixtape is birthed from a journey that wasn’t all that easy for me. So now I teach breath work sound healing predominantly with a coaching element.

And really the coaching side of my business is just to get bigger results during the breath work and during the sound healing. It’s completely restorative, but it’s also high performance and it’s all the things that I was looking for five years ago or 10 years ago in my corporate career. I was in the music industry for a long time.

I really got into the industry based on wanting to be close to the action, wanting to be in the room. I remember being at a festival, looking up at the stage and just being like, I want to, I want to be side of stage. Of my own making. Didn’t want to be the artist, but I just wanted to be in the mix.

Like, how do I get there? What do I need to do? And I took the steps and I got there were lucky breaks and you do make your own luck. Hard work meets opportunity, but I was consistent in knocking on doors. . and it was very enjoyable at the beginning. And I traveled around the world and I paid off my student loan.

And I honestly had moments of looking around at what I was doing and being in awe of the fact that I could do what I love, get paid travel, have this incredible life really very quickly after finishing university. There’s a story like my first big arena show where live nation, tell the story really well.

And I cried when we were doing the count out because this is like the days before electronic count outs and people using their card. This is when people still carried cash to shows. And I sobbed because every time we got to a hundred thousand, I made everybody recount because I’d never seen so much money in one place and I just couldn’t quite believe, just three or four years before I was struggling to make my credit card payments to pay my way through college.

And then I was working with an act that I loved. and able to pay my whole student loan off in one commission. I had been manifesting it. I’d been writing my, like doing the whole things, having a vision board. I was working towards it, but when it actually happened I was completely emotionally blown away.

And really, that for me is like my highest point in the music industry. But I was in the industry for another nine years trying to replicate that day and how that felt. And the clients got bigger, the shows got bigger, the stakes got higher, but it never felt rewarding or meaningful or purposeful really.

This is very do or die, but it really didn’t ever return that purpose to me after that moment. So I was in an agency and I made a decision. I was at a very big company, a very famous artist, across the board. This was a multi-genre agency. So you have directors, actors, fashion clients, models, like the whole, like everything was in this world.

But I was completely unfulfilled and I was just like, this is a numbers game now and I never got into this to generate tons of numbers and to be in the office all kinds of hours. So I made the leap into management and I was there for four years at a big company in Los Angeles. Moved from London to L.A. to be closer to the hub, and I learned a lot.

But every time I took what I thought was a course correction to get me closer to purpose and meaning, and all of these big ideas and these concepts I just felt further and further away from what was going to light me up. . and no matter what promotion I got, no matter what artist I was working with no matter the accolades, in fact, the higher I went, the more disconnected I felt. Yeah. You are looking like, yeah. I recognize this.

Nicole: I understand, first of all, like I understand that journey. I understand that. First of all, I had an almost famous kind of moment in my life where I wanted to be around the music and I was, I wanted to be on the side of stage and I was, I suddenly manifested this network of people that were all in the music industry.

I was not, and I remember trying to get into it, and one of my music industry friends was like, if you get into the music industry, it’ll kill everything you love about it was what he said. He was like, don’t work in it. Everyone who works in this industry is miserable. Except for the artists. And he was like, it will kill everything that you love about it. He’s like, you love it. Leave it that way. And I didn’t really listen. Just as luck would have it, I didn’t get a job in that market. But I touched that world and it’s intoxicating . It’s very intoxicating. But I also know that feeling of chasing the money and chasing the achievement and thinking that will fill you, and that’s I think, a good little segue into your chart and into what being a generator is really about.

One of the things that I always say is that, so you’re a pure generator. And just to give everybody the lay of the land, because it’s a podcast, you can’t see the chart. Daisy has an undefined head center, an undefined ajna, an undefined throat, a defined G center, a defined ego, a defined sacral, a defined spleen, open, completely open emotional center, and an undefined root..

Now, what does that mean? It really means she’s a pure generator. She’s not an emotional generator. So you get that sacral. Yes. And you go what happens with a lot of us, particularly as a five one we want to lead, we want to be purposeful, we want to, it’s very, it’s part, it’s ingrained in us to want to make an.

That’s just part of our journey. Our journey isn’t about us, though. It’s not about us personally, it’s about other people. We have this transpersonal destiny, which really just means that we can’t fulfill our destiny alone. It’s not going to be about us. We’re going to be particularly the five, one sixes.

If you have a six in the front of your profile, or a five, you are transpersonal. It means you are here for others. It does not mean that you give your life away to others, that you have to be of service all the time. It’s not all altruistic. It just means that you can’t fulfill your destiny all by yourself.

It’s going to be by you somehow affecting other people. That’s going to lead you on your path more than fulfilling yourself. 

Daisy: And it sounds true. 

Nicole: Normally we don’t really know that in the beginning it starts with us. We’re just like, I don’t know what I want. Yes, but what I’m hearing there, and it was the same thing for me in the beginning, it’s you’re lit up by something and this is when we become super attractors, right?

We’re lit up by something as generators. When you’re lit up, your energy is literally sucking more things like that. To you it is pulling them like a tractor beam, because that’s what our aura does. A generator aura pulls in, that’s the magnetism. When they talk about magnetism, which is an overused word at this point.

Everyone’s just like being more magnetic. But really what we’re saying is you are in super attractor mode. You are like a tractor beam pulling things into you. And when you are in this energy of being lit up as a generator, so you get into the music industry, you’re like, I want that. generator’s on your generator’s, like I will lend my energy to that work like nobody’s business and I’ll work till I drop.

And this is how generators become slaves because employers quickly learn that we will work till we drop for the thing that we love, and we’ll do it longer than we love it because we’re so used to it and we do have the energy that it takes a long time for us to burn out. So that can be often this feeling, I know I had it and I’ve heard this with a lot of generators.

You’ve worked at something for a long time and you say that I should have left sooner.I was burnt out for a long time. I stayed too long. Welcome to the club. We often don’t do it until we’ve really exhausted ourselves and usually your body’s going to take you down because the generator is now being drained rather than when generators are working on something that they truly love the generator. That Sacl Center creates more energy. It literally is like an energy machine. It’s making more. That’s why we have sustainable energy. And somebody who is like projectors, they need to be lit up by their work.

They need to be excited about what they’re doing. They need to feel recognized and successful and respected. However, their body is not going to make more energy for the thing that they are working on. They’re going to have a certain amount of energy they’re going to have, they’re going to be able to work for a while, and then they’re going to need to rest and conserve their energy so that they can show up in a big way later.

That’s why they work in spurts. But our sacral is going to be like, more energy. More energy. Let’s keep going. Go. And then they get up the next day and it’s let’s do it again until it doesn’t. And then we burn out and then we really feel like, I don’t know. There’s a, there’s usually like a regrouping part after that where we say, okay, now what am I going to do?

And we don’t know because we’ve cut off our communication with that sacral. We weren’t listening to it for a long time. It was saying no for a while. Sometimes years. Mine said no. For years mine was like a good year and a half being like, no. and then when it’s saying no, and we make it go anyway, we drain the motor, we actually degrade it and that’s when we get, that’s when it starts to affect our body and that’s when we start to, you can see health problems.  I slipped into clinical depression, which was the greatest gift of my life. I keep, I, I say that not the greatest gift, but it was one of them. It’s up there. Because it forced me to stop. And that’s ultimately what’s happening. Generators, we have a built-in stop mechanism. Our sacral does tell us no. We just have to listen. Does that resonate at all? Any of that, like that feeling of maybe staying too long or feeling like you knew for a while. 

Daisy: A hundred percent. That whole last job that I did for four years, I, when the moment you said your, your sacral says no. I remember in the first two weeks of that job sitting in the office and to protect my old colleagues’ identities. I won’t go into the full story, but there was a conversation happening around me and I thought to myself, this is not where I should be. I’ve made a mistake and the logical part of my brain just looked at the job role, the title, the money, what else was out there, and it made that human masculine decision of you’re staying here.

And I’m going to be completely frank, I burnt out two years into that. . And I stayed for another two years, but in those two years in the run up to burnout, there were so many signs and so many ways in which my sacral was just like, time to leave. You’ll figure this out. It will be okay. And I just did not listen for a ton of reasons.

Some sensible and some, now I understand, not so sensible, but I really stayed in the generator mode until the very last moment. So I completely relate to everything you’ve just said and wish I had my human design back then. Wish I’d had you. 

Nicole: No one really had human design back then anyway. This is it’s been around for a long time. It certainly has only been mainstream for a couple of years where people have started, and even then, they weren’t using it necessarily for things like. I think that there’s a practical kind of resurgence to how this is being taught now.

And I like to think that I fall into that category of what we do with this and how you can apply it. The other thing is that I think it’s very interesting where you ended up. and I, and I’m going to ask you if you have directions or anything that you want for this reading, but you have your incarnation cross, which is basically how we look at your purpose now.

I look at it several ways. I usually take people through the gene key sequence and some other cocktail of things that I like to highlight with people. But there’s a general theme to everybody’s incarnation cross. And then you can dive into it more deeply to see what it means to you and what each of the gates means and the expression of it.

There’s a lot more deeper stuff that you can do with it, but I think that it is interesting that the left angle cross, so left angle means that it’s transpersonal right angle RAX. If you see RA X at the beginning of your incarnation cross, that means you have a 1, 2, 3, or four in front of your profile number.

And that means that yours is a personal profile. There are also fixed profiles which is, there’s only one profile that has that, the four one that’s a totally separate little juxtaposition trans profile. But yours is an LAX, which is left angle cross, which is the transpersonal, and that’s what I was talking about in the beginning, that it’s about other people.

I do think that that typically does emerge a little bit later for most people. Maybe it’s changing now because consciousness is evolving, that people are thinking a bit more about the collective than just themselves. And it’s not necessarily selfishness. But the 5/1 is generally an achiever.

We’re very practical. So the fact that you were like ticking the box and you were just like, the job pays this much. This is the title. I get this kind of office, this is the work that I’m going to be doing. This will look good on my resume. Tick tick and accepted. Really normal because that’s how the five one kind of is meant to work.

Is this practical? Is this a solution to my problem? And can I do it? Do I feel like I’m well suited for this? And that might have been the part that was a little bit more subjective. Can I do it? Yes. Should I do it? Maybe not. And this is where the 5/1 is can I do it? The 5/1, it’s the archetype of the savior. The fixer. We’re the universalizer of information. It’s that first step into the collective. 

The four is about the tribe. The four line is about, I have an effect on people who are close to me and the people that they are close to. So everything is like a degree away from them or the people that they know.

Everything is their network. The five is different. The five is like that step into the big picture that’s saying, Nope, I actually, I’m here to have an effect on strangers. I’m here to have an effect on a wider group of people. We’re actually not meant to be the toughest. I can’t give anybody in my family advice.

Nobody wants to hear from me, but people pay me very good money to have me coach them and have me work with them. But the people who are close to me, that’s not who I’m meant to have that impact on. And it doesn’t mean that it’s not friends, it’s just there’s a network that’s built, but it’s built in a different way.

I don’t keep people forever and have these like I have friends that have the same friends since they were like three years old, and I do, but I don’t, and I used to think there was something wrong with me. That’s actually very much a five line thing. There’s something called the projection field, this can be really hard to hear, but when we’re not useful to you anymore, then it’s almost like people don’t need you anymore. And that can be taken very personally. But remember, we are transpersonal. It’s an artifact of we’re meant to float in and out of people’s lives. 

Doesn’t have to be a total stranger, but it’s probably people are going to drift away and they’ll make their way back or they won’t, and that’s okay. But it can be really painful. I thought that I was like, I just, I, people don’t like me was a big, ugly identity I wore for a while. Like I just, I don’t think people like me, I don’t know, like I have friends and then they just go away and then they come back but then they go away.

And maybe it’s because of me and true, it is because of me. But whenever, there’s also something about us too, where our reaction, knowing that our history, our conditioning is people go away. It can make us not trust. , it can be hard for us to trust. It doesn’t have to be, but that’s a typical thing that 5/1’s have.

And then there can be this feeling like you always know people want something from you. There’s, we are useful people in this world. And if you can own that and own that, you are useful. And your incarnation cross, this is what I was getting to, the way that you are useful is you have the interpersonal theme of education, the transpersonal theme of education.

I think it’s interesting that you ended up in coaching. Lots of 5/1’s end up in coaching because it’s naturally what we are good at, but that you ended up in a place where it’s about disseminating knowledge. It’s about your conscious sun is gate 11, which is about ideas and putting new ideas out in the world.

With the five line, with that transpersonal is to change others to help change the world, to show them a new way through education and it’s very much, this can be very spiritual. It’s not necessarily educational in the mental way. It can be. but I think it’s interesting that you’re taking your history and where you’ve come from and now you’re educating people on this practical, spiritual level.

Daisy: I resonate with everything you’re saying. It makes so much sense. Definitely in my teens and my twenties, the pain of losing people from your life, not to another plane, just from your life that I was attached to in a way. I thought it was a reason, a season or a lifetime. And actually when you, I guess have the five one, it’s, you are really seasonal or a reason for people.

And a big thing in my thirties has been to appreciate people from a reason and season perspective myself and what is it that we’re in this together for? What do I need from you? And I think that all people full stop, find it hard to receive. It’s more of a challenge to receive than to give.

So definitely the last five years for sure, where I’ve been actively trying to be in this sort of, not just what I give, but also what can I receive from this other than like the learning curve at the end. So that we are in this beautiful moment and when it’s time for somebody to go, because usually they go before I do.

I’m like, bye-bye. That was beautiful. Thank you. It’s not how I used to feel. And definitely when you are in something like the music industry where you really are useful to people in lots of ways people do usually want something. In being able to give. and not wanting to receive, but also being open to receiving, having new friendships, being okay, that it’s not going to be for very long.

Just enjoying the moment, being on the surface. I always want to go deep. I dunno if that’s something that’s in my design, but I’m like, I’m always looking for that deeper connection and just learning to be okay with not having to have that in every situation has been, yeah, a real moment for me.

Nicole: That deep connection that you’re looking for, that can be a number of things, but if we talk about it from the perspective of you have an open head and an open Ajna center, which that is just we love and your conscious son is gate 11, the gate of ideas. So this feeling of you know I want to exchange ins, inspire.

I’m inspired by all these people. I’m inspired by all these things. To have those deep conversations, those like existential conversations and to go deep with people is something that I feel like when we have the open head center, we’re so curious about everything and we want to have these connections.

But to go back to that five line, and you do have a lot of fives throughout your profile as well, like in some of your other gates or fives as well. So it’s a recurring theme for you that this five line theme where we are able to, we do connect with people very deeply. We are able to see things that they can’t really see in themselves.

We show them things in themselves that they can’t see on their own where the karmic mirror, they call it. Not everybody wants to see it, so they’re not all going to be down with going as deep as you would like to go. But those who are you will have a deep and lasting impact on. One thing that helped me with understanding this, like the seasons with people and them coming in and out was when I realized that I’m here for other people, is that, that it isn’t personal.

We attract. And those people, when we’re in alignment, we’re going to attract the people who are in alignment for us to help and for those who are meant to help us. , they’re going to be stewards on our path as well as us being stewards on other people’s path. And we don’t know, which sometimes it’s a little bit of both, but when we are in alignment, we’ll be in the right place at the right time where those connections will be happening, and we just have to trust that they will be here for the time that they are meant to be here. And that could sound like a universal message, but particularly for us that they’re not going to, you’re probably not going to know them 10 years from now. You may, but that will be true, like fractal family, where you’ll have this tight-knit group. But for the most part it’s okay for them to come and go. It’s how it’s meant to be. 

Daisy: Oh. Feels like such a tough lesson. 

Nicole: I do think that it’s the most complicated profile to have and I used to, when I first heard it and I read about it, I was like, oh my God. I know it’s not wrong. Like I know it resonated too much. I was like, I know it’s not wrong. I’m glad there’s a reason, but ew, I don’t want this. This sounds really hard. I don’t like it. And now I embrace it. Now I look at it like I have, I always felt like I had a deeper purpose. I always felt like I had the ability to make a big impact.

The more I embrace the 5/1, and I believe in this too, everybody has to embrace their profile. You’re here, you’ve got a role to play in the movie, and you go out there and the villain has an important role in the movie. The antagonist has an important role in the movie. The protagonist has an important role in the movie.

This is your movie. You have to play the character that you are meant to play in this life. And when you don’t, that is when things are. When you’re denying it and you’re like no, I want to be the relationship maker. It’s not going to be you. That’s not going to be you.

It doesn’t mean you can’t have relationships, but that’s not where you should be pouring your energy. It’s into the impact. And let that carry you, and the right people will come into your life. The right people will stay. I’ve been married for, I’m with my husband 18 years. Some people stay. And so it’s not that everybody leaves, but for the most part, you’re going to see people enter and exit.

And it’s just that I do believe that’s how you get to help on it, have a big impact on more people. We’re meant to have this big impact that reaches beyond our close sphere. The way that we expand that sphere is we keep growing and we keep moving, and we have space for new people to move in.

Daisy: Oh, I love all of these words. Sphere, impact. Great words. 

Nicole: And I’m just looking at some of the other things. Oh, yeah your Jupiter is in gate 11. and so you, you have this gate 11 just repeating throughout your chart. So much of this is about being open to these ideas and new concepts and philosophies and digging into that and really stepping out to hold the place as a leader in this new way.

Breath work and sound healing. And these modalities that they’re catching on now, but you’re definitely at the forefront of it, of people really starting to embrace these new modalities and these new ways of approaching productivity, happiness. And how do you view these, what you do and the impact that you’re making?

What’s the impact that you want to make?

Daisy: What is the impact that I want to make? I want people to live a sustainable and nourishing life. I want them to be able to weather storms because they come. Obviously I had, like my dad went through a really long and very painful battle with cancer in those last two years of being in corporate America as well, like corporate in the UK looks a little different.

So that’s the impact that I want to have. I want people to be able to, there are lots of concepts that I believe in that I believe in heart led decisions in business. I believe in living with an open heart. And I think that the systems that we live in now, don’t adhere to those ideas, but in the place that we’re moving to over the next 20 years, we are going to become very reliant on things like artificial intelligence as we should, because they are incredible. How it’s going to change our productivity, the things that we can get done, the ability to work for ourselves when we have this artificial intelligence. It’s in the same way that the birth of the world wide web changed how we work. I want people to have AI, but the thing that’s going to become the differentiator between humans and artificial intelligence is how we resonate with our hearts and being heart led. If you’ve spent the last 15 years like I did in a corporate environment, even though it’s the music industry, we made decisions based on numbers, based on reading data.

I had a friend who was in for the Grammys and we were talking about this. And as much as you can make decisions based on data and what’s performing, the resonance of a song, how it makes you feel is always going to be the thing that turns something from a viral success to a massive hit. So the impact that I want to create is to help people understand their resonance, like how they can be more in line with their own frequency and how that frequency brings the people. Just like you’re saying, like a generator will bring in their sphere like will like literally attract in their aura, the people that need to be there. That’s how I understand my impact because I think we’re so much more than just the day to day.

And I think as artificial intelligence comes in and revolutionizes how we work, it’s going to be even more important to understand that the thing that’s different between me and a computer and me and artificial intelligence is this heart that beats inside of me. It’s not just an organ that’s keeping me alive, it’s the differentiator. It’s my special secret source, and being able to tap into that is going to be the thing that brings people, other people and actually creates purpose and meaning in life. I hope that makes sense. 

Nicole: It does. And I was asking you that because not that you asked, but I have a tendency to go to messaging and go to the mission of your company and things like that when I’m looking at somebody’s charts, certainly for the first time, and, you, you have the 34 10, which is the channel of exploration, and that’s all about really digging into your convictions and having the courage to act on your convictions and put them out in the world. That’s the channel that says, I stand for this and this is why I’m moving in this direction.

And that it’s a core piece of your mission in life. So I think that it becomes a core piece of your mission with your business. And when we’re taking that with the profile and we’re taking that with your five one and we’re laying it over, it’s I want to make an impact in this way.

And you’re going to be grounded in your convictions, because that’s a big part of your consistency in your identity of who you are and you have a defined identity. So it’s really important that you go out and show people who you are and you’re really tuned into who you are. It’s interesting how you brought it back to the heart.

You’re defined both in your heart center sorry, your G center and your ego center, which is also the heart. , they’re like the heart chakra that we look at, split into two in human design. And you have both defined, which I have both defined as well. And so you have this consistency in your heart.

You have to show up with that in a really high frequency for you to be attracting the things that you want to you and for people to really understand your message. So really key for you to be saying yes to the right things because that’s your channel of discovery that’s there as well. And also, which is also why you probably stayed in corporate for a little bit too long because we can, we have staying power.

Once we make a decision, we will go for it and we’ll keep giving, giving, giving, giving energy to it, and then we can’t get out. So really important for you to be saying yes to the right things, but letting them be led by your convictions and then making an impact by sharing that widely with other people.

Unapologetically. Unapologetically. You’re not here to be soft . You can have a soft heart. You can be this beautiful, welcoming soul, but when it comes to your convictions, unwavering. you believe it. So you move in that direction. And then you also have all of your variables.

So those are the arrows at the top of your chart. They’re all, they all point left, which is more masculine energy. And by masculine I just mean more of an active energy. You can lean back at times. You want to lean back. You don’t want to be moving out of pressure. You want to be moving when you feel aligned to move.

But when it’s time for you to go, you go. You can go after things. Some of us, we actually sputter when we go after things because it doesn’t really work for us that way. I have a lot of feminine energy. I’m more it, they have to come to me. I can’t get it out. You can put it out there. So you showing up like what you’re doing with, she does these wonderful one minute sound healings on her on her Instagram, which are awesome.

I love that you’re putting things out there and you’re, that you are doing that consistently. You do have the energy in your chart to be consistent with things. It’s the, if what can stop somebody with your design at times or make you question things potentially. I’m not saying that you do this, but potentially is, Are people listening? Are they getting it? Do they hear me? Oh, I didn’t get many comments. I didn’t like If the support wasn’t there right away, you have to keep going. You have to just, you have to be so rooted in the conviction and let that move you. Let the joy of it move you that it doesn’t matter what anybody does.

They will come if you stay in that energy. But if you’re waiting for them, that’s where with your design, that’s really going to throw you off.   

Daisy: A hundred percent. And for everybody out there who’s listening, my company is relatively new. This isn’t years and years of practice.

This is a lot of trial and error to get. This place. And I will say that in the last six months it has skyrocketed. But six months ago I was sitting in my house with a bunch of video cameras and lights trying to record Meditations and breathworks for my own membership portal, and it wasn’t working, and I was crying and frustrated and saying to my husband, I am just so ashamed. I am so ashamed. 

I can’t show this to my network and to my friends this is embarrassing and I’m ashamed and within 48 hours I pivoted and I figured out what I needed to do, but this conversation is highlighting a lot of the things I was feeling, I had just come I don’t want to give too much away in case people listen to this, but I had been on a trip a little bit before and realized that a friend who meant the world to me was “peacing out” of my life and the feelings I was having when I was saying things like, I’m ashamed of this was because I didn’t feel like I could show, I didn’t feel like she could be happy for me.

I felt what I’m doing here is so weird for her and I get it because this isn’t working. All the reasons why she’s moving away from me are represented in this moment. And obviously that is me being in my fields and I figured it out and it’s great, but it took a few goes around to be like, I don’t care anymore about what anybody thinks, because I found the right message and as I found the right message and I was communicating it in a way that was like good and tasty, that was when things began to skyrocket.

But talking to you about people leaving your life, it does remind me of this and it’s been very hard for the last six months. Cause it, it’s truly like the last of the friends that I made in the music industry. Who’s really staying? Who’s the friendship that was more than just our careers were parallel and therefore we’re in it.

And there’s a ton of other people who’ve come in. I am not doing without, everything is great, but there is, there was a sadness and you are nodding, you understand.

Nicole: All too well. All too well. And it doesn’t mean that you’ll never see any of those people again. It’s just they’re not going to be like that big presence in your life that they were for a time.

Daisy: Yeah. 

Nicole: And that’s okay, but I do understand that there’s a grieving period, so we go through it a lot. As a five one. You go through that grieving period of oh, another one Bites the dust. Wish you well, my friend. I’m here. And I’m happy that this has resonated with you.

Do you have any questions or is there anything that you wanted to know from your chart specifically? I know when we spoke before, you were like, I don’t really have a direction, but now that we’ve talked is there something where you’d like to know more about that, or this was not clear.

Daisy: Oh, everything’s been clear. I feel like I have a ton of research, which is like my whole thing. Anyway, I love a bit of education. I don’t have any specific questions, but what I could use is any advice that you have on how to maximize my design. You know enough about my business and what I do that I feel like you can give me insight and from an intuitive standpoint.

Nicole: Yeah I think you’re going to be wanting to look at the tone and goes to the way that you show up. As a 5/1, you really have to just say, it doesn’t matter what anybody thinks. I know that’s easier said than done. Maybe I’ll do a reading of his one day on here, but Harry Styles is a 5/1 and I heard him on Howard Stern a while ago, like a year ago, I think maybe even. He was talking with Howard, and Howard was asking about the press and all of these things, and he said, a friend of mine gave me the best advice that I ever got, and I say it to myself every day. 

And he said, anything anyone says about you, they’re wrong. Whether they say that you are the best in the world, or they say that you are the worst person that ever lived, they’re wrong. Nothing that anyone says is true. And when I heard him say that in the way that he said it, I was like, oh, he’s a 5/1. And I went and looked it up and I was like, sure enough, he was, because there was a sadness with it.

There was a like, people really have misunderstood me a lot and that’s just going to happen. So you have to recognize the shit out of yourself, for what you are and see yourself as a leader and step into that, and that’s your work every day, I am this leader. I am this leader. I am this leader. Be really grounded in the practicality of what you offer.

So people are going to come to you for practical solutions. You have to provide them. Meaning you have to be an expert in the solution that you provide. It has to be solutions oriented. If people come to you just for the breath work, you have to tell them why and why they’re coming, and that’s really important.

Or they’re going to have an idea about what they would get out of it and then say, Oh, you didn’t give me what I thought I was going to get. And meanwhile, you didn’t know that was what they wanted. So be very clear about what you deliver to protect yourself. And as far as putting your message out there and about how you step into this….it’s follow your joy.

Sacral says yes, you do it. Sacral says, no, you don’t. And that can be really scary in the beginning, but really do your best to stay outta your head because with that openness up there it’s going to send you on wild goose chases and you can tend to be like shiny object syndrome. So to stay grounded, it’s asking yourself, am I in response to this thing right now?

Or is this an idea that floated into my head and now I’m off on a wild goose chase. To stay grounded in what you do and how you are showing up and then to build your community and to build your community online it’s going to be about the more you see yourself as a leader, and the more, I don’t want to say forceful in your message, but the more you if you look at the shift in my content, you’ll notice that some of the things it’s very practical in nature, but one of the things that I have stepped into is I’m unapologetic about the solution that I offer.

So don’t worry about if you get stuck on this, I see a lot of people get stuck on this, like trying to soften the language and it’s usually people who have a five, somewhere in their profile we’re polite people, but that’s not where our brain goes first.

We go to the practical let’s cut to the chase kind of thing. Let that be, if that’s true for you. Let that be how you speak and let that be how your content comes out, and let that be how your message gets delivered. And you can go back and soften it a little bit later, but you don’t feel the need to please people.

That’s not what you’re here to do. You don’t make an impact by pleasing people. You can make an impact by telling them, by standing true in your convictions for you being true to who you are and your convictions and what you know can help people. Whoever wants to come along, you’re welcome and anyone who doesn’t want to come along – have a nice life, unapologetic.

Daisy: This is incredible advice. Thank you so much. I feel like I need to go and have a word with myself and come back as an even stronger, un-compromising is a terrible word. Unapologetic is, I’ll use your word unapologetic leader and just completely true in my convictions. When you are fully in alignment,  such magic happens. Such incredible people come to you, doors open. The whole idea with human design and gateways is such a magical concept as well. The fact that you have these gateways already open to you, you just have to understand how to read them and therefore open them. Truly open them. It’s just beautiful what you do. 

Nicole: Thank you. And I’m glad that this was helpful. Certainly we are going to stay in touch, but I’m happy that this and I hope that for everybody listening that this was impactful. My goal with these episodes is to really give you a test drive of how this works.  There are readings which are wonderful and then over time, you get to step into these energies, you get to step into this, you get to be more unapologetically you and it’s what’s you.  This is the advice that I give you, Daisy, but somebody else who’s a one three projector is going to get different advice. They’re going to get a different way of showing up authentically as them.

I’m going to give a shameless plug to my masterclass that’s happening next week on. Which is all about your authority matrix. So specific energies in your chart that I’m putting together to say this is how you step into your authority and this is how you become an authority in yourself, and you become an authority to others once you are an authority to yourself.

It doesn’t happen the other way. It’s oh, then I’ll be an authority out there and then I’ll feel better. It doesn’t work that way. It has to come from inside of you first, and there’s a specific way that will feel authentic too. And you get to become the authority to yourself, and that can be found in your chart.

I think that’s what the chart’s uniquely good for. Thank you for being here. 

Daisy: Oh, thank you for having me. 

Nicole: Thank you for letting us dive into your chart and get all personal on the show. I’m so happy that we got to do this and I want you to come back on and talk more about we’ll come, we’ll have you come back on and do breathwork sound healing. We can talk more about that and what you do another time. 

Daisy: I would love that. What a treat. Thank you so much. 

Nicole: Beautiful. Thank you for being here and thank you, listener for making it all the way to the end of this episode with us. We appreciate you. Hope you found this useful. We hope you found these practical applications to the way that you can look at your human design chart.

We hope we brought this a little bit down to earth for you and see, show you how you can use this information to strengthen your business, strengthen your life, and strengthen that connection you have to yourself. I hope you come to the masterclass next week. You can sign up at nicolelaino.me/masterclass, and then Daisy tell everybody where they can stay in touch with you, where they can find out more about you and connect with you on the socials and all the things.

Daisy:Thank you. That’s amazing. My website is a great information port www. Why is there so many Ws? But that felt strange. But it’s spiritual mixtape.com and my free community is up there as well as a more paid forum, more thought out community, just all the things. And obviously come onto Instagram and have some one minute sound healings. Also just spiritual mixtape.

Nicole: Highly recommend those. Yes, go to her Instagram spiritual mixtape, and you can check out her one minute sound healings. They’re so beautiful and it’s such a gorgeous hit of relaxation. And if you’ve never had a sound bath before, it’s a remarkable experience. I highly recommend it.

And I hope that you connect with Daisy to do all of those things and maybe check out her membership, which I have many friends who are a part of it and they absolutely love it. Thank you so much. Thank you for making it to the end with us. Remember, you are only limited by the limitations that you accept.

And when you stop accepting those limitations, that is when you become limitless. So go out there, be limitless, everyone, and I will catch you in the next episode.