Nicole Laino: Hello and welcome to Unshakeable with Human Design, everybody. I’m your host, Nicole Laino, and I am so excited to be here with you today because we have a really fun, special episode for you where we are actually with the lovely Christie Wylde. Who is the winner of our recent contest here on the show, where we had the contest where if you shared about the show and you tagged me on Instagram, you got entered into a drawing to win a reading right here on the show with me.

And Christie was our lucky winner, which I was so excited to see that you won, Christie, because you’ve been supporting the show. You’ve been following me. We had a clarity call at one point where we chatted. So I was really excited. I love when an OG wins something. Not that I don’t love the new people, but it’s always nice that we get to reward you because you have been so supportive of the show. I was excited to see your name pop up. So welcome!

Christie Wylde: Yeah. Thank you so much. And it’s such a gift that you are offering thank you for thank you for doing those drawings. Thank you for allowing me to come on and share a little bit and learn a little bit from you. I came to human design, beginning of the year. I think, I don’t know, time feels so weird, but yours was one of the first podcasts that I like did my little scrolly search that felt so authentic and real.

And I just appreciate your presence in the interwebs because I think what you bring is really genuine to this space. And there’s a lot of not genuine out there. Like we can just call that out. So thank you. I’m humbled and grateful to be here.

Nicole Laino: Well, thank you. I’m humbled and grateful for that for what you just said, that was really sweet. And I received that because that is my hope to make an impact and to just be doing what we do and serving this audience. And I’m happy that it’s helped you with your human design journey, that you’ve stayed with us for this whole time.

And that the show has been delivering you value. Now you’re studying, you’re in medical school, so you’re a busy woman. Right. You’re currently a medical student, you’re studying to be a naturopathic doctor. And what else can we tell the audience about you? I’ll say just from a human design perspective, you are a 6/2 pure generator.

What else would you like the audience to know about you before we start with your reading?

Christie Wylde: Yeah. I am in my last year of medical school. I will be graduating in June as a naturopathic doctor. That’s partly what brought me to the show is that I’m preparing to open a private practice once I graduate and looking at that entrepreneur journey. I was really curious about how that intersected with human design.

And my pronouns are she, they, I do identify as queer. So I’m looking to be working with the queer community predominantly when I’m practicing. I’m also a mom to a two year old manifesting generator. And so that’s quite a journey, a wild ride that we’re all on. My partner is a generator. We’re all in just knee deep in our designs right now.

So it’s a lot of fun to learn and grow in that way together. And Yeah. And they’re just kind of fun hobbies. I love to paint and write and do some creative projects on the side. So that generator energy is very real to me. I feel like I really do love building things. And I have to say when I found out I was a generator, I was a little sad that I wasn’t a manifester.

I don’t know if anyone out there feels the same because there is, you know, Right. It’s like out in the world, you’re just like manifestors are the ones who make the magic happen and they absolutely do bring so much magic, but generators are always there building something. Once I realized that really was a deep part of what I love to do.

It was a lot easier to accept like, okay, I’m a generator. This is a part of that generator energy. So I’m building a practice. We’re currently building our family and we live in Seattle currently, but we’ll be eventually moving to Portland, Oregon, and I’ll practice, be licensed in both states so I can practice serving people in both states.

But the big long term dream is to have some land and establish kind of a retreat healing space with outdoor hydrotherapy setup where people can soak and sauna under the stars is the big picture. So, Again, that generator thing. I was like, I’m going to be building this probably until the day I die.

And I’m really okay with that. I feel very content and happy with that. So

Nicole Laino: I mean, generators, you need something to build kind of till the day you die. Our energy has to go someplace, and it feels best, particularly for generators, to be like systematically building something. I’m building this, I’m growing it, I’m building this on top of this. That typically feels best.

Many gens are going to be a little bit more, sometimes manic in their approach of what they’re building. It won’t make sense. They’ll be building something over here and then they’ll be building something over there and that’s part of their process. But yours might look a little bit more linear, where it’s not necessarily the same things, but it’s like, you’re building yourself right now where you’re becoming this naturopathic doctor.

Now, you’re also under the cross of identification, the left angle cross of identification. You’re a 6/2 so you’re a left angle, so it’s not about you, it’s about other people. Your purpose has more to do with the rest of the world and something to do with, like, an outward work than necessarily all your inward work. 

But that cross of identification, to me, it’s like, you’re in the process of identifying as a doctor. You’re in the process of building that identity. But then what are you going to build on? it’s a private practice. Then it’s a wellness retreat center.

And then it’s this, they’re different things, but they’re absolutely in alignment with one another. And that’s very generatory. And they have to do with other

Christie Wylde: I like that.

Nicole Laino: Generatory. And they have to do with other people. With serving other people. With sharing with other people. With helping other people.

always like for these readings to be more like an interactive coaching session. Where you can kind of guide the reading. I can talk. I’m never at a shortage of things to talk about in your chart. So feel free, I’m happy to do that as well. But do you have any questions? You’ve been in this game for a while, you’ve been digging into your design, you’ve looked at your partner’s charts, your chart, you’ve looked at your I’m sorry, did you say it was a son or a daughter?

Christie Wylde: We’ll use they them pronouns

Nicole Laino: Oh, they then, oh, excuse me. Okay, so you, you have your, you have your child that you are, you’re looking at their chart, you’re well versed in this world of human design now. Do you have questions or are there things that have come up through your journey where you’re like, I discovered this and this is where I got stuck, I’m curious about this, is there something I can shed light on right away that maybe we can as a jumping of point. 

Christie Wylde: Yeah. I think the thing that’s been coming up the most recently is like the six person. So on the six, two, so the six part of that and I’ve kind of been comparing notes with a few other six twos that I know of like, do you have a hard time connecting with people? Like, do you have a hard time making social connections?

And one of the friends and I, we had this conversation back and forth where we were both. I mean, it just felt like so affirming because she was like, I feel like I’ve been searching for mentors my entire life and I can never find anyone that really fills that role for me. And I was like, yeah, same.

I’m always looking for someone I can learn from and then usually the lesson I get is that I am my own teacher. I’m learning the things. I’m learning from the situation are coming from within, not necessarily from this person. So I guess I’m just curious, like if six is because, we are kind of like at the top of that spectrum for the personality lines. If 6’s, this is like a common struggle for 6’s to feel socially in connected to other people.

Nicole Laino: Well, yeah, they’re one of the keynotes for the six is aloof and by aloof, especially so you’re on the roof right now. You’re on the roof phase. So this is a time of retreat. This is a time of pulling back. I look at it like, from birth to 30 years, you were out there living life.

And you were in, like, I look at it like, you’re gen pop. You’re down there in the weeds with people, living it. Whatever that looked like for you. Trial and error. Fixing things, breaking things, just like living it, bumping into people, having relationships, breaking up, there’s this, vibrant side of life that might have looked rebellious, might have looked tragic, might have looked exciting, could be any of these things or all of them combined.

That’s that first 30 years and then you climb up on the roof and you’re literally taking yourself out of that game and you’re starting to get, for the first time, that vantage point of being at the top of the hill looking down at everyone. You are in the weeds, you are no longer in the weeds. So one that can feel, a lot of 6’s that I have talked to, there’s just a different way that they have experienced this.

It’s the same thing, it’s just what’s their interpretation of it. Some of them have been like, oh my god, finally, I really needed to get out of that. And then some of them have felt like, I used to be fun, I used to be adventurous, I used to be daring, I used to be this. And now I feel like I can’t connect with people.

Like I don’t want to do the things that I used to do. I don’t feel connected to the world in the same way. Do either of those resonate for you or does any of that? 

Christie Wylde: Yeah for sure. I think it’s compounded by, like, I did read something once about how hard it is for those of us in our on the roof phase to parent during this. And I’m like, that’s when I became a parent and I don’t feel like I have a community around that and just really reassessing that this is because my energy is pulling away from these things, not because I can’t connect with people like reframing that I think is really helpful for me.

I think it’s important

But yeah, I, I definitely had what I had my like, fucker. I call my fuck around and find out phase. I look back and I’m like, Oh yeah, I did that. Wow. I’m I made it through that somehow

Nicole Laino: yeah.

Christie Wylde: ause now my life is just so different from how it was then. I think too, like, it’s really hard for people to understand how drastically different those phases are for those of us who are 6’s.

So it’s hard for them to stick around because they’re like, well, I knew you as this one person and now you’re a totally different person and it’s true. That’s true in a lot of ways. I’m a much different person than I was 30 or younger. And I’ll be another 50, approaching 50, I’ll be another person emerging into that stage.

So, I don’t know, being a six is a wild ride, man.

Nicole Laino: It, it’s a journey. It’s about the journey for you guys, and it’s important for Sixers to also understand what the on the roof phase is for. It’s for introspection. It’s for getting a different perspective on things. You’re not born with that higher view perspective. That we talk about the 6’s having.

That the vision, it’s built over the course of this journey of your life. Now, it doesn’t mean that you don’t know that that’s coming. I think that that’s why 6’s can be hard on themselves in those first 30 years. Sometimes they can beat themselves up for not getting things right or for messing things up.

Like, oh boy, wow, that was really, I really wrecked a lot of stuff back then. And they can be not terribly compassionate for themselves. Because they do have some idea that they’re going to be a role model or that things matter and will matter down the road. It’s like, you know that the path is leading you someplace at the top of that mountain, but you don’t necessarily have that perspective yet.

It’s this phase where you get it and you get to reflect on all of those experiences of the first 30 years. This is that time of reflection. Without this time, you don’t get to be the role model. If you don’t properly roof it, you will not be able to come down off the roof properly with the wisdom that you’re meant to have in that third phase of your life.

So it’s all very purposeful. I will not say that it’s always comfortable, but I do know that I have so many women who come to me, and it is all women, I haven’t had a man come to me that’s a 6/2 that had any of this stuff going on, but they come to me a lot of times, 48, 49, 50, 51,, like somewhere around that shift in their life, and I certainly have people come after as well, but there is that sense of they’re like, they feel the change happening again, and they’re just like something is changing, something is coming, I feel like I can’t stay still anymore.

I have to and it’s that feeling of like I’ve got to come down off the roof. And it is essential for you to do it because that is your purpose calling you. And you may not know what that purpose is you’re building stuff and you’re following all you can do now is follow what your you know, you have the 34/10 exploration channel, which is about conviction. It’s about being in response to things so I’ll give an example and I’m just sort of illustrating a point.

If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but just to sort of illustrate how this works. So you identify as queer, so you want to serve the queer community because that’s a value that you have. That is a conviction that you have. Maybe it’s that the community is underserved. Maybe that you don’t like the way they’re being served.

That you want to take a stand and you’re going to build something for them. And that’s going to be connected to who you are and how you identify as a person. Now, if that were true, I’m just trying to give examples because I think they can help to illustrate points. If that were true, that would be how, as a builder, As a generator who’s here to build things, that you’re building the things that feel right to you in alignment with who you are, in preparation for whatever it is that the wisdom phase brings you.

We don’t know. So I often get the question from 6’s where it’s like, can I lead before I’m 50? Do I have to wait until I’m 50 to share, to be embodied, to No, not at all. You’re still living your life. You’re not going to sit there and hibernate until you’re 50 years old. That’s not at all what this is saying.

You’re just living in different ways that’s preparing you for who you’re here to ultimately be. But the key is you just follow strategy and authority until you get there. And that might be that you actually respond to fewer things now because you’re on the roof. You might respond to more things that take you inward rather than outward.

Don’t forget we’re looking at the six, you’re also a two. You’re hermit. Most 2’s want to be left alone. A 6/3 has a very different expression than a 6/2. Don’t sleep on that two. It’s very powerful. So you just want to ask yourself, am I hermiting or am I hiding?

Am I just not allowing myself to be in connection with people because I’d rather be alone? The two is here to be called. So I use the term, let your freak flag fly because the two is unique, the two is different, the two is not like everybody else. And you get recognized and called out for being unique.

So, It’s not about you being like all the other parents on the playground and assimilating with that group. It’s about you showing up as who you are and allowing the correct people to see that in you where they’re like, that’s my person over there. I think I want to get to know them. Does that make sense from how these things work together?

Cause they’re really seeing that you’re a leader and a visionary and all of those things. But they’re seeing, more. You’re unique. We see the design side more than we see the personality. We think everybody sees this like six leader. Cause that’s what we’re focused on. Cause that’s what we identify with.

I identify as a five. They see me as this problem solver and all of this. And it’s like, no, they kind of see me as an expert. They see the depth of my knowledge. They see that if I ask people what they see, the first thing out of their mouths usually is expert. When it comes to like human design and stuff, not in all things, but that I have a defined expertise and I’m a specialist in something.

They’re going to see you that you have a unique way of showing up in the world. And then it’s about like, but what is your thing? That’s the key with the two is, are you doing your thing and are you letting yourself be seen doing your thing? That’s really the key with the profile there.

Christie Wylde: Yeah. Yeah. The conviction. Yeah. It, all of that resonates. Especially like the conviction, you, the example you brought up, I, that really got some wheels turning for me because I’ve been doing some work on identifying your ideal client and some of those very basic like business building exercises.

And one of the questions that I was working through was I’m doing like a practice building, incubator type thing with other physicians. Most of them are In practice already, and they’re just kind of, converting or updating their models. So the question is what’s your favorite kind of patient to work with?

And I do work with patients as a student. We have a student clinic, a teaching clinic and I was like, man, the patients I always get really excited about, they’re always queer. That was surprising to me for some reason. it is very personal and very authentic to me but it was still surprising to me. 

And so kind of hearing that that’s like built in a little bit to my design is that I’m going to be building something that is personal to me. I think part of my hesitation is I don’t want to niche down too hard and then like but what if this person needs me or this, you know, I don’t want to turn anyone away.

But at the same time, what I do get excited about is in working with this particular community, and they have particular needs, and I can see those needs, and I can understand those needs, even if they’re not all personal to me I can see what needs to be done. So anyway, I’m just kind of processing that out loud.

That was a really interesting piece for me.

Nicole Laino: So would you like me to tell you why I’m not surprised that you like working with the queer community? Just from a chart perspective, because I’m giggling over here because what I look at to start to piece together your niche from your chart. Now I want to preface this by saying that I don’t like to jam a niche into a gate.

There’s a much more organic process of really honing in on it but you feel like you know right now and so I’m looking at it backwards. I’m like you came to me with something and I’m looking at it and I’m saying okay well here’s how maybe you could feel validated in that choice and then you know if you go further with that you could start to dig into well what else does this mean to me where it might naturally expand that niche a little bit more, or it may not, based on actually these qualities, rather than it necessarily being like the queer community, but it’s like the queer community and people like this. This is what is attracted to me and what I will be attractive to other people for. 

Because your niche gates that I’m looking at, gate 10 is one of your niche gates. And then 15 is the polarity to that. And gate 10 is about authentic behavior. And it is about loving yourself just as you are.

Forgetting about like, it is purely you. It has nothing to do with anybody else or what they think is right. Or it’s about authentic, and we use the word behavior. Because behavior, it’s a gate of self love. I love myself so damn much because I’m just me. And I don’t change my behavior for anyone. I show up as me every single time.

So that can be where you’ve seen people be very in alignment with this. And you’ve probably seen people be very out of alignment with this. And now we pair that again. This is how, like, this is why it’s the whole chart. So like some charts have a lot of themes to me and they jump out at me and it usually helps when I know a lot or somewhat about what you do. 

Cause then I can start to connect the dots faster. Then you pair that with, okay, maybe you’ve seen people not be free to be who they are. Maybe not love themselves and hate themselves because everything in the chart tells us what to have it is and to have not.

So to love yourself so much or to loathe yourself so much for being who you are. 10 is both of those things. And the more people we have with Gate 10 who are in the I love myself so much just because I’m me, you teach other people how to love themselves so much just because they’re them and people become more empowered to be who they are.

But we pair that with, so you’ve seen people have it and you’ve seen people not have it, you’ve seen them love themselves, you’ve seen them hate themselves, now you have convictions about this. Now that 10/34 channel of exploration, you’re responding to it. So an example of that could be. Maybe you see someone in the queer community loathing themselves because they were told that that was not the right way to be.

I’m just making this up. You have a visceral gut reaction to that of like, no. The channel of conviction, the channel of exploration says in order for me to be me, I have to live my convictions. So I’m going to be super out and proud about who I am. I’m going to openly identify as queer and I’m going to allow people to see that and maybe that gives these people courage.

Maybe that shifts into, it can be activism, there’s so many different ways that this can show up. I’m just giving one illustration for how that could and using the queer community as that path to show you like, cause obviously if you’re thinking of dedicating your life to it, there’s conviction there.

And it shows you that when we follow that, I’m not hearing a lot of you second guessing these choices, but some people can. They can say like, that is what I believe, but I’m worried about what people will say, I’m worried about what the, I mean, you were saying, the only thing I heard you say where you’re second guessing it is I don’t want to niche down too hard where I’m excluding people.

But it could be marginalized people, it could be people who just fit this bill. A niche isn’t about necessarily being so niched down that you’re like, I only help people in the queer community. You’re free to do that if you want. But, if you are just being an example of what it means to be proud and in love with yourself and be proud of who you are for what you are and for who you are, purely that.

Then you will attract the right people to you. You can certainly say I specialize in helping the queer community. You might have a mission out there, channel of exploration, that conviction. Letting your convictions be front and center with how you run your practice when you have it running. That is how this can start to take shape around a business and around like how you show up for it is when you lead with conviction, you’re in alignment. You’ll start to find that you’ll probably get more excited about what you do when it’s in alignment with your convictions. Because again, that channel is the one thing that connects your sacral.

It’s what defines it. You only have one channel there. And that one channel connects to your identity. If you think about response, what truly you are in response to fuels your authentic behavior, fuels who you are. You’re not you if you’re not in alignment with your convictions. If you’re not truly in response, then suddenly you’re not who you’re meant to be on this planet.

So do you see, like, we start to weave these things together and businesses, lives, little clues to how this is all, I don’t want to say preordained, we have free will, but there’s stuff here that I don’t know what your convictions are going to be. That’s you as an individual, and frankly, you don’t know what they are until you’re out in the world, you experience something and you respond, yes, I care or no, I don’t.

That means something to me. That doesn’t. That gets me excited. That doesn’t. Generators and manifesting generators, we’re here to learn about ourselves, and that’s how we learn about ourselves, is by what we respond to and some people respond to different things. Yours will probably have a lot to do with what you think is right and what you think is wrong.

What do I want to put my power behind? And what feels like me? And where do I feel like people are being, maybe their rights are being trampled on? Or different things piss different people off. You know? There’s lots of people with this channel who have very different convictions than you.

But that’s how you find your alignment is through that. And then that six is seeing something bigger picture than the rest of us can see. That’s the potential that’s there. How’s that all resonating or landing with you?

Christie Wylde: I feel like I just went through a second hour of therapy. No I mean, I was just processing so much of this with my therapist and it’s feels, I love human design for this reason, because it’s so affirming of things that I’m sensing, but I don’t yet have the language for, or I don’t really have the context or the organizational piece for and part of what I was sharing with her is just I’m coming to this place of likeke really deep acceptance that this is my design. This is who I am. 

This is the uniqueness of what I bring back to humanity is like, just by accepting who I am, instead of fighting it, instead of othering it, or labeling it as bad or whatever we do, because we’re, it’s hard for us sometimes to confront parts of ourselves. I feel like human design just gives me that permission to be like, well, this is why I feel so strongly about this and that’s actually a gift. That’s a gift that I bring to people is to feel this way or to act this way, to be this way. 

Nicole Laino: A thousand percent

Christie Wylde: yeah. So Thank you.

Nicole Laino: There are two aspects, if I could just sort of call out a couple of other things that I’m seeing as we’re having this conversation. You’ve two halves of your design. You have the 34/10 channel that’s connecting that sacral to the G-center, which is what we’ve been talking about.

And then you have a defined ajna and a defined throat. So you have two channels, that channel is the 17/62, which is the channel of acceptance. This is a channel of being able to explain things in ways that people understand and that they can grasp easily. I think the challenge with this one, you probably are already good at this, but the challenge with this one is to not just have wild opinions about things, to ground them in facts, to ground them in receipts, to ground them in something it’s logical. It’s not abstract. 

This is logical circuitry. So something that will support you in your mission. Because your mission might be a lot bigger than your practice. I don’t know. But if it feels that way for you, that maybe you are here, I mean, whenever I look at 6’s and 6/2s in particular, it’s just sort of like, yeah, you sort of learn that first 30 years, what doesn’t work, then you ponder it for another 20, and then you come down off that roof and you’re just like, I have the way.

And nobody knows what that way is going to be, it’s probably a lot bigger than you think. You also have a sixth line pearl in your pearl sequence. There’s just a lot of things that lend to like kind of a big vision or something bigger. And you have a voice. Your conscious sun sits in your throat. So that to me is just, it is about doing, it is about sharing, it is about putting something out there.

So when you’re doing that, something, especially when you’re dealing in new age-y stuff, naturopathic medicine to catering to or specializing in the queer community, and really getting a message out there, you have that 63/64 gate pairing in your unconscious sun and your unconscious earth.

So in your incarnation cross, you have My Conscious Son and My Conscious Earth, which are very much, they’re head center gates, which are about seeing beyond just here. They’re very visionary. They are very much about like possibility. What can we do and how can we do it and let’s not get stuck in reality here.

So, it’s about ushering people into something brand freaking new and having the courage to do that. I get a lot of people with these gates in my life because I attract them because that’s what I put out as my personality. So I put it out as my personality and you’re like, you’re speaking to the unconscious in me.

So we match that way. I get a lot of people with these gates that come into my world. And you have to break that. piece of reality, you have to be looking at the more you go into the ethereal spaces and you explore the things that other people maybe call you crazy for, probably the more excited you’ll get lit up by your sacral will go, ideas, new things will come in.

But what you have is a specific talent to be able to explain maybe the esoteric and weird stuff that other people can’t necessarily understand in a logical way. And if you make that the focus where you mix, I don’t want to say equal parts, but you’re always including some of the esoteric woo, the things that are a little bit more out there.

I mean, we’ll look at the way that I approach human design. I really do try to bring it down to earth for people.

I really do try to ground it in something logical because I recognize the benefit of it and while I don’t have that channel I do have the 60 second gate which is about explain, the explaining part. I just have a million ways of processing that.

You have maybe one very much faster way of doing it because you have it. It’s sort of like a highway that’s built for you. Mine, I’m kind of like always finding a new way to get to that explanation. But that talent that you have of blending the esoteric with logical explanations. With, if you can maybe put that in your mind as a way, and 6’s usually just have a way of doing this too.

You’re normally very good teachers or explainers of things. But that breaking it down, that you might have the ability to break through to the people who maybe seem unreachable. Or maybe seem like they’re on the fence, that if, maybe if you don’t get emotionally involved in it and you allow yourself to come at it from more of a scientific approach, that if I break this down right, there’s nobody I can’t reach.

Might be like a mantra you want to play with. If you choose. It’s a talent that exists. And again, we never know what it will be used for. It’s what turns you on. What do you want to do? But I think you mentioned you started a podcast, right?

Christie Wylde: Yeah, yeah. I started a podcast for the naturopathic medical community. Because we are just, for anyone listening, we are trained, as medical providers, so we’re trained in all the basic standards of care, but we also have this whole plethora of modalities that we learn how to utilize nutrition, supplements, lifestyle, movement, gut health.

I mean, all the pieces, really intense. And there’s just not really a resource for us to share about those experiences. So the main mission when I started this was to create kind of like a really central hub for talking to doctors in the field, the things that they’re doing.

There’s a lot of really cool stuff that our docs are doing. And our students and other people in the field can connect with them, get trainings, get pearls of clinical pearls, all these things. What’s really been really fun to see is that there’s this personal element has been evolving out of it where they’re telling me what they’re doing clinically, but then we’re like, okay, and then tell me about, you’ve been in practice for 15 years and like, tell me how that’s evolved or you practice with your partner. Tell me what that looks like. 

The way that’s opened up people to share just honestly about their journeys and how things have changed, how they’ve evolved, things they’ve become more committed to over time, less committed to. I feel like that’s like going to be the nugget of the podcast. yeah, and I can see kind of how that’s lining up with what you’re saying too is like being able to see the trajectory of things and also a need that this profession has.

Pulling that down and like making it really tangible for people. So it’s like more digestible. Yeah, I feel like all my neurons are firing. All the going.

Nicole Laino: sparks are yeah, and You know, you went through this and now you go walk around in your life and you see what aha moments come up. What are the things that are resonating with me? I always treat readings like I always say, like they’re an activation.

So I’m gonna say some things. I’m gonna put some words to some things that maybe you have been feeling. We’re gonna work together. We’re gonna have this conversation. I’m gonna walk you through your chart and then walk away and then see what happens from now, because this is like the seeds get planted.

We planted seeds now you walk around and you live your life. And you follow your strategy and authority and you’re watering those seeds, you’re contemplating things, you’re kind of like gently putting attention on what we discussed and what meant something to you. And it’s like you’re chewing on it, it’s like you’re digesting it over time.

And then as you’re walking through life, and that’s where like, I call it like shower moments you know, you’re just, you’re in the shower and you’re like, I never thought of it that way, that’s what she meant, or that’s totally this or you’re in a moment with somebody and it clicks because you’re in response to them.

That’s the power of this is to not push the answer, but allow these seeds to bloom in their time and the way to get them to bloom in their time faster is to keep following that strategy and authority. Noticing the shadows and conditioning that can come up, yours are going to be those bridging gates that you have are going to be the ones that are real traps for you, which might be around 20, gate 20 is one of your bridging gates.

I want it and I want it now. In fact, I want it yesterday. So let’s go, go, go, go, go, go, go. And it wants to force and push and make it happen. You’re also a quad left with your variables, so probably a very action oriented person. Take charge of a situation like that’s just sort of naturally usually what happens there and then you have gate 33. 

That one typically, I don’t find to be like a terribly shadowy gate. It is a throat center gate. It is the gate of retreat. It’s about reflection. Usually it’s like, you know, are you reflecting too much or are you pulling back too much? Gate 20 is the one that I would look out for.

That’s the one that I think that usually people who have Gate 20 as a bridging gate and I say, I want it and I want it now, I want it yesterday, they’re like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I do that. That’s normally the hot button one. As long as you’re not falling into that and you trust like it’s happening, maybe I can’t see it, but I trust that it’s happening and if I focus my energy on where it wants to go rather than where I want it to go, good things happen.

And I love that it sounds like you’re already doing a lot of these things. It’s the message is to kind of keep doing more of it, keep going. Did you have a

Christie Wylde: I’ve been doing it unconsciously. Hearing you say that and pointing that out, that’s really helpful for me, because I can be more aware of that.

Nicole Laino: Yep.

Christie Wylde: I also had a question for you. If you had any tools around, I know, like, when someone has an open center. There’s a lot of things that happen more receptivity. You can magnify a person who is defined, who’s kind of in your sphere.

And I’m curious what tools you use for protecting open centers. In certain spaces, I just noticed sometimes with my open head center and open emotional center that those places can get, I don’t know if co-opted is the right word, but I lose control somewhere along the way and I feel like I’m like just at the whim of people around me and

Nicole Laino: Yeah.

Christie Wylde: just curious if you have tools for navigating that, if there’s any strategies for that.

Nicole Laino: Yeah, I mean there’s tools like, simple grounding really does help because a lot of it is being out of your body and not being grounded in your body. You’re much more susceptible to be taken on a ride if you’re floating up in the air like a balloon and someone can just grab the string and start dragging you along on wherever they want to go.

Whereas if you’re firmly grounded and planted where you are in your body, it’s harder to be taken on that ride. So that’s a simple practice that I suggest everybody do, which there are grounding techniques. There are simple things that you can do like walking barefoot in the grass, those type of things, all the way to doing like central channel breathing, which is something where you like tighten up your whole central channel, your root like you’re doing a kegel, you tighten up your sacral, you tighten up your heart, you tighten up your throat, do ujjayi breathing, which is like a yoga breathing technique.

So you’re breathing like closing off your throat. Sounds like you’re snoring when you breathe through your nose. You’re breathing through that back of your throat, you’re closing your eyes, and you’re just picturing that breath and your energy go up and down the central channel, you’re reconnecting your energy there.

So those are some grounding techniques that you can use. But outside of that, for protecting your energy around conditioning, honestly, it’s been my experience that it’s about, you have to decondition first, so you can know that it’s happening. You get more control the less full you are in an open center.

So if you are overwhelmed by the pressure of an open root center, and that is a feeling that you have, and I have an open root too, and that can be like an overwhelming feeling just where you feel overwhelmed all the time. Like you’re running out of time all the time. The list is so long and you’re just thinking about what do I have to do?

What’s next? You have to be able to tune into that it is that pressure first in order to fight that pressure. So the first step is to be aware that it’s happening. And then you start the process of deconditioning. I use tapping, that’s sort of the way that I clean out the centers and you have an open solar plexus.

Emotions, feel your feelings. Don’t push them aside and say, that’s inconvenient. Don’t have time for that. I’ll deal with that later. And then you don’t deal with it. So the tools are really to decondition those centers, to recognize. And what I like to do is I tell people, go one at a time. Say like, I’m going to really pay attention to root center pressure.

And I’m really going to focus on noticing when I am acting out of trying to be free of pressure versus acting from my sacral. My favorite question to ask with an open root is does this really need to be done now or am I just trying to be free of the pressure? If I can ask that question and then realize how many things don’t actually need to be done now, they could be done later, that that gives me my power back.

Then you start to have more grounding, because the Root Center is about grounding, you’re gonna get grounding from that. But then you start to clean out that center and you stop being taken for the ride. And then when you’re in that place, you’re very sensitive, you know what root center pressure feels like, you know what it feels like, so when someone comes in and they have it, you suddenly have a different relationship to it, because you’re just like, that’s not mine, that’s not mine.

And I can feel that, and I can feel their pressure, and that’s not my pressure, and I don’t need to be a part of it. And then you can take yourself out of their physical space as well to show yourself the difference between being near them and feeling it and being away from them and not feeling it. Like take a step outside, touch a tree, hang out for a couple of minutes, remind yourself what your energy feels like, and you go, oh that’s totally not me, that’s them.

You will be surprised how much of that protects you. How much of that shifts where you suddenly become, It’s like you’re psychic in a certain way. You’re feeling and receiving what they’re throwing down. And you can get a sense of, they feel a little out of alignment in that place and you can start to see what they have rather than identify with it yourself. Does that help? 

Christie Wylde: That’s Very helpful. Thank you.

Nicole Laino: Well, I mean, especially like as the work that you’re going into, you’re cleansing your energy and staying clear in between your patients because you’re going to be taking on a lot, like don’t identify with it, don’t hold it. We have a saying, be a screen, not a sponge.

Allow it to pass through, you can understand what’s there, but you don’t hold it. And then there’s good old sage for like your space, like I would recommend things like that for your office wherever you’re practicing as just kind of a cleansing each day, making sure that you’re clearing the space.Any other questions or anything else that I can answer for you?

Christie Wylde: I don’t think so. This was so lovely. Thank you.

Nicole Laino: Thank you for being here. I appreciate you well, I appreciate your support for sharing about the show, for listening to the show, but then also letting us telegraph your design and put it out on the show for other people’s benefit. That’s really, it’s wonderful that you do that. I appreciate you.

Christie Wylde: For anyone who’s kind of on the fence about getting a reading or exploring this more, like, this is very helpful. So just keeping that in mind.

Nicole Laino: I’m so happy to hear that. Thank you so much. Well, I appreciate you. Thank you to the listener who made it all the way to the end of this episode with us. We appreciate you as well. Thank you for being here. If you do want to know about having a reading and booking a reading with me, just DM me reading on Instagram.

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