Episode 464:


Nicole Laino
Hello and welcome to Unshakable with Human Design, everybody. I’m your host, Nicole Laino, and it’s me and my lovely and talented and Wonderful co host, Ms. Christina Luna. Hello, darlin. How are you? 

Christina Luna
Hello, Nicole. I am so good. I’m so happy to be here today. 

Nicole Laino
I am so happy to have you here because, like I’ve said a million times, it’s so much more fun doing the show with you by my side. But I feel like it’s been, like, we obviously talked last month for last month’s podcast, but it feels like a year went by. Does it feel that way for you? 

Christina Luna
It does. I feel like I’ve gone through lifetimes in the last month. 

Nicole Laino
Oh, my God. The month of March and the end of February, the whole of Pisces season. The retrogrades. Like, when they say it slows you down, it slowed me down, man. 

Christina Luna
It slowed me down, and it took me deep. Like, the image I have is when you feel whirlpool in the ocean, it’s. It took me so deep underwater, I felt things that were ancient, things I haven’t had to feel in a really long time. It was very interesting for me and intense. 

Nicole Laino
Well, and I was saying to you, like, I felt like I questioned everything in the. Definitely the beginning of March. It was like, who am I? What am I doing? And I was so grateful for all of this, and I always am for knowing what’s happening and knowing that it’s raining outside. So that’s why I’m getting wet. Like, that always feels good. But I really was grateful for it. I think in the ones where it’s like, they’re super emotional, you know, Pisces season is emotional. We had multiple retrogrades at certain points during it. And then we had the Mercury retrograde, which I felt like it went on forever. And then that weird moment when Mercury retrograde ended. It’s the equinox and hits into Aries season. Like, all of these things. 

Nicole Laino
I mean, the Aries season and equinox always line up, but just this Mercury retrograde ending, there’s. It’s funny, I did, and she’s going to come on the show and do an episode with me, but I went for one of My horse healing sessions where I go and I hang out with a herd of horses and we commune in the field together. And I did that on the equinox. 

Christina Luna
Wow. 

Nicole Laino
And God, was that, like, such a beautiful bridge between those moments. And the funny thing was, the last time I did it was on my birthday, which was the eclipse in September. So I’ve. She’s like, you pick really juicy, crazy dates to come here. And I’m like, it just works out that way. But it also. I’m like. When I do it, I’m like, I’m so happy that this is where I’m going. That the only thing I’m doing is tuning into my energy. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
And I’m regulating with other beings that. 

Christina Luna
Can’t talk, that can’t put information in there. It keeps it all very energetic. Emotional and physical. 

Nicole Laino
They share so much, but in such a different way than we’re used to on a regular basis. Unless you, like, have animals like that on your land that you visit often or that you live with. There’s just a very different exchange. So it really brings me into myself to be there and. But also opens me up in a different way that I can’t get really any other way. I love it. So it was. It was a beautiful way of being like, we’re closing this retrograde out and I’m opening myself in this new way. I always experience things this way where I’ll have an idea of what it’s going to be like. I think everybody was talking about. It’s. We’re getting. Mars is in Aries and we have. 

Nicole Laino
There’s just all of these things happening where an Aries season and this is happening and the fire horse is going to go off with a bang. I felt a little like the fire horse singed me a little bit at the beginning there. I don’t know if it felt that way for anybody else, but that was my experience. I think. Like I wrote to you, I was like, I feel like I was electrocuted. Felt like every. Someone flipped a switch, turned the power back on and we blew a bunch of fuses. The lights were on in the house. It’s been dark for a while. There was more light than there was before. But we also had to repair some shit. That was like the feeling I had at the very beginning of Aries season. 

Nicole Laino
And I’ll say that we’re a week in at the time of our recording of this. So that’s where we are right now. And we’re heading into April now. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. And even just the Next couple of days, while we’re heading toward April 1st, we’re really in this very gentle, very sensitive. It’s almost like this, like brand new skin being touched for the first time. It’s our lives are experiencing things that we’ve never actually encountered before. And from my perspective of Pisces season brought to light a lot of idealistic or cosmic or ancient or coded storylines that we’ve held in our psyche. It tapped into our collective unconscious, our subconscious, and it brought the subconscious pieces currently into the present moment that we had to actually look at them. And some of it dissolved, some of it vaporized, some of it persisted long enough until we actually held the part of us that was telling the story. 

Christina Luna
And from my perspective, I had lots and lots of previous versions of me that were persisting with a story that’s actually expired. It’s an expired story. It’s an outworn kind of relating pattern. And I had to navigate my own shame around why I created those stories. I had to navigate a lot of repressed things about my worthiness. We’ve had a lot of Chiron healing moments and they will continue to expand through Aries season because we have so many in the next three months. We have Chiron moving into a new sign after a long period of time. We have Uranus moving into a sign after a long period of time. And we’ve got the nodes are about to change. We’ve got Jupiter moving into a new sign. 

Christina Luna
Everything feels new, but we’re being face to face with the new world, the new skin, the new body, and how the old doesn’t match anymore. Like how we’ve outlived the old story, we’ve outlived the old cycle and we get to make a new story about what it means now. It doesn’t mean that the emotions are not real, doesn’t mean that the sensations are not real. But the story we’re telling about them needs to be upgraded, needs to be retold from a new space of wisdom. And so if we’re all finding ourselves in this, like, tender place, if while we feel tender, the story we’re telling feels old, that’s I think, where the point is that we can purse apart the pieces of the story and see. Can I see this from a different. 

Christina Luna
Can I reshape, reframe the story so it actually makes everything acceptable and everything about me is worthy and everything about this is actually okay? 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And I think that the headline for this too is if we use these seasons and this is what we talk about, A lot. But if you use these seasons and you don’t freak out, because I was saying before we hopped on, I was like, if I didn’t know this stuff, I would have thought I was crazy because of the roller coaster. Coaster of emotions that I went on. And like, you were saying. And to me, it felt like the retrograde, too, brings up a lot. So we had Pisces does that. And then we also had the retrogrades that were bringing things up where I couldn’t not look at them. It wasn’t an option. It was like, you will confront this. And I never journaled so much. I never had to, like. 

Nicole Laino
It’s been a long time since I’ve had to, like, consciously be like, all right, I need to dig into this and write about it. And for me, it, like, felt like I was like. Like, I had to play with it. I had to, like, just dig into it and see what came out, excavate it all. And if you don’t do that, then that can lead to repeating the pattern. The next time it comes around, it’ll feel worse. But you and I are both in a cycle. Just with everything we’ve talked about the eclipses and our nodes going through these transformations. Are you a Chiron Tauru as well? 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, me too. Like, I’m very cognizant of the fact that time’s up. It’s like that. 

Christina Luna
Ding. 

Nicole Laino
It’s going. I knew I was getting to that age where we think 50, and I’m like, I’m not 50 yet. I’m 47. But it’s in my sign. I’m not. It’s not on it. I’m not right on my degree. It’s like, the invitation is in the mail. Like, that guest is coming to dinner. 

Christina Luna
And this is. Even though we are talking about our Chiron return in Taurus, this is applicable to everyone in this way. And it finally clicked in for me. I’m reading this book that was written by a Taoist priestess dominatrix, and she’s been talking like, the whole book is about worthiness, to assert and demand or ask for what you want and need. And I was looking at it, I was like, we’ve just had a whole era while Chiron’s been moving through Aries, that’s just been helping us understand our worthiness, to even be our worthiness. Like, we’ve had to prove our worthiness, to be experts in our field, to prove our worthiness by making money. Prove our worthiness through, like, sticking into a relationship. It’s all this healing around just being worth something. 

Christina Luna
And the next phase of this, while Taurus Chiron healing happens, will be, well, now that we know we’re worthy, what do we want? 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, what do we get to have? 

Christina Luna
What do we get to have? What are we worthy to receive now? Because we don’t have to prove that we’re worth it now we just have to, like, expand our awareness of what it might be that we want more of. 

Nicole Laino
I have this visual of adorning yourself with these. Like, that’s what I get with Taurus. It’s just, ooh, what pretty things am I going to decide are going to be mine? What am I going to choose? We were talking before we got on the call, too. It’s like, these are the things that are happening for everybody. Like, planets are moving into these signs, and there are certain aspects that are happening for the collective. But then there’s going to be your chart that interacts with all of this, which your quarterly readings are amazing for that. And helping me and all the other people understand, like, what’s your recipe doing with the collective recipe right now? And human design, I think, makes it. 

Nicole Laino
Some of that can make it easy where you can see if you get channels and things like that, and it can tell you if you have. What are you educating yourself on? What’s the universe’s lesson for you this particular month? But of course, we’re all getting a collective lesson. And right now, Aries season, to me, it does feel like the fire horse kicked off. I do feel that energized sort of fashion. But it’s very funny, even, like, I’m in the middle of a launch right now, and we’ve been doing the expanded leader masterclass. And the energy in there is so interesting to me how everybody’s like, there is this, like, fire energy. But it’s almost like the whole start of this year being stop and start. This, like, ebb and flow has maybe grounded people. 

Nicole Laino
If they’ve really put them through their paces, where they’re really feeling now’s time. Like, we’ve been building toward this. It’s time. And that’s very exciting because I feel that way, too. Like, I feel like things are. They’re moving now and they’re going to continue moving for a while. But what are you seeing? What are the things that are standing out to you for the month of April and what we’re talking about today? 

Christina Luna
Overall, I feel April is a very powerful month. And it’s like a step one for everything that we’ve been preparing for. So I totally agree with you that people are grounded and they’re making these moves that are meaningful, real. They’re more grounded, patient goals, because we have been humbled, I think. But I also see it as a reflection. It’s a reflection month. Of all the things we used to do that made us feel worthy. What are the products we bought to make ourselves feel more confident and worthy? What are the ways we presented ourselves? It has a lot to do with identity. What did I bake into my identity so that I could show that I’m worthy not just to you, but to me as well. So there’s a lot of those indicators. 

Christina Luna
And I think that what we’ll find is things that used to have a strong draw, they’re kind of neutral this Aries season. Like, we actually don’t need to put on that thing to feel worthy. We don’t have to, like, bling this thing to know that our words mean something. And a really strong example of this. I used to be a fashion blogger, and I used to think that people wouldn’t listen to anything I had to say unless I showed them a pretty outfit. So I put a lot of energy into my outfits, but what I really wanted was to have meaningful, philosophical conversation. And I can look back at this whole long chapter of my life and see that, gosh, I don’t have, like, no, my word. And what I share can stand alone as meaningful. 

Christina Luna
And I don’t have to wrap it up in something to make it worthy to be listened to. And so I think that this whole month of Aries or of April is that kind of reconciliation for all of us on a deep level to prepare us for the next step. 

Nicole Laino
I love that you brought that up, because I wasn’t thinking about it from that perspective, but I’ve been having that same thought. But I wasn’t coming at it from. I wasn’t seeing it from the door you came in. I came in a different door, but we ended up in the same room. And because I was just thinking this today, which is like, I’ve noticed it with messaging. I’ve noticed it with what people are actually attaching to what they are. I’m very pleased that I consciously made a decision with this masterclass that I did, to not talk about your formula of human design, to not offer the candy, because I feel like people have gotten rotten teeth after a while, and I don’t feel attracted to that now. It’s like, I want to have the real conversation about what this is really about. 

Nicole Laino
And I want to test and see if I have that conversation. If I call them up to something and I speak at the frequency about the things that I want to speak at that frequency. If I’m there, will people meet me there? And so far, it’s been received really well. And I’ve noticed that there’s. I don’t want to say it’s a backlash, but my own experience of looking at people’s. Someone put up something that said. I read it. It was somebody talking about using human design that I hope you develop your cult like Brand. And I didn’t have like an ew. It wasn’t like triggered reaction. I just went, oh, that to me, hit on a. I’m trying for something. And I’m like, I’m so not there anymore. 

Nicole Laino
Like, even if that would work, I just feel like I’m not playing that same station anymore. That’s not where I’m at. That’s not what I’m responding to. And I remember a time where I would have been like, I want a cult like Brand because I didn’t feel like. I didn’t feel like people would really respond to me. I didn’t. Tell me how I get seen, tell me how I get heard, tell me I no longer feel that way. So that type of messaging has. I’m neutral to it. It’s just like, oh, yeah, that doesn’t resonate for me at all. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. And I think that’s because we have all been cultivating an inner security while we’ve also been cultivating our worthiness. And so we have these different planets doing these deep, long cycles inside of us. So I just talked about how Chiron’s been healing our worthiness, and Uranus has been revolutionizing our stability. And with both of those planets beginning to move to their next cycle, their next sign, their next temple, the whole. We take everything we learned, we graduate from that, and we bring it into the next one. And so we’re, in many ways, we’re beginners for the next iteration of our soul cycle. And Chiron will ask us now to heal. Like, so now what do you really need? Do you really need, like, Taurus rules? Do you really need to eat that food to feel comfortable? 

Christina Luna
Do you really need to have one more gray sweater? Do you really need. Do you really need these things to feel safe, comfortable and secure? What actually gives you that deep level of security and safety? And can you heal that now? Can you walk with that medicine? And at the same time, Uranus is going to revolutionize the way we Communicate our preferences. We’re now secure with our preferences. We’re secure with what makes us ourselves. 

Nicole Laino
Right. 

Christina Luna
What happens now when we’re walking into the world and just being that we don’t have to put on my reputation, doesn’t have to precede me. I can sit down in the room and I can just have a conversation with someone I’ve never met, and I can know that these are two beings interacting in this space. Not trying to create status, not trying to create security, not trying to sell anything with. To each other based on, like. I don’t mean, like, sell. I mean, like, I don’t need you to buy me. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, I know what you mean. I’m not selling myself. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, yeah. 

Nicole Laino
I think about that all the time. Like, when I think about when I was acting like I felt like I had to sell myself, every time I walked in a room, it was like I was being sized up. And I think the people that can do that really well are the people that don’t care, and they just are. And that’s what people are reacting to. That’s what they’re having that positive reaction to, is how little you care. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, our attention gets to be out on the experience and not so in on what it feels like inside of me in this moment. Yeah, we get to actually be focused on the other. Because the inner security is now stabilized. In Aries season, April is about. Let’s take myself into the field. With all this new education, all this wisdom I have, let me expose myself to as many new experiences as I can to see how the medicine has stuck, how the growth, how the evolution has stuck. And so it’s a time for trying new things, talking with new people, giving permission to be a beginner at things. Beginner energy is potent in April,. 

Nicole Laino
Definitely. And we have that kind of. One of the things that I circled on my little set of notes is on the. From the 5th to the 9th, we have, we’re all gonna have the channel of initiation. So that’s Neptune and the sun coming together. They’re gonna be conjunct at that time, or they’re gonna be close together. But they form the channel of initiation together, those two. And that is the channel of going first. I mean, it’s very Aries energy, but it’s. But that channel, when we have them together, when not everybody has that, you might have gate 51, which is what the sun will be in, but not everybody will have the 25 and have that channel. And that channel is about going first. And it’s a channel of going first even when you don’t know what will happen. 

Nicole Laino
And you get braver, not because it all worked out, but because you took the step. That’s the thing right there. And Mars and Neptune are right on top of each other during that time as well. So I think that will just be even more potent. It’s already a really strong channel. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. The sensation I get from the first two weeks of April is about rewilding the experience of being alive in a way that allows you to take a step and let reality render one step at a time. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. 

Christina Luna
There’s a strong immediacy to whatever frequency I have in this moment. I take the step in the step below my. The earth below my foot is going to render to meet that foot. And so it’s not for long distance sight. It’s not for planning and planning before taking action. It’s getting that ship into the harbor and navigating as it’s moving. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And that’s. I completely agree and feel the same thing. Like looking at the chart and seeing what I’m seeing from the human design perspective as well. Feels that way. I think the other thing that I was getting in here, looking at what we’ve got going on, we’ve all got this. The sun and Jupiter form a connection after they form a channel. Right after we break out of that, from the 11th to the 16th, we have. We’re all gonna have this theme of starting something new, starting a new cycle that like what is coming up. But this channel teaches us. And the lesson that’s gonna be here is that you’re not gonna be able to keep doing everything you’ve been doing and start this new thing. There’s probably gonna be something that has to go. 

Nicole Laino
There might be a little bit of shedding during that week of you, but it should feel good. It should feel good letting it go. It should feel complete. And I think that’s the difference that we can sometimes feel when we let go of something prematurely or we force ourselves. It’s almost I like or counter in my kitchen, they bloom and then eventually those petals, they’re up there for a while and then it just falls off and a new one is doing its thing from inside. And I think that’s the cycle feeling that I get from it. It’s like you’re not going to have to do anything. You’re not going to have to break it off. You’re just going to. It’s just going to be very apparent that this thing is no longer viable. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
It’s run its course. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. And I’m seeing that there’s something about something celebrating that process being so in the movement and the process, it’s not so outcome based. The actual sensation of the process feels like a celebration. 

Nicole Laino
And it should. I think that whenever we culminate something. And I like to do that no matter what. When I have clients that don’t renew and they go off on their own. First of all, I always say, like privately to myself, I have gratitude for the time, for them trusting me, for the time that we did get to spend together, for the work that we did get to do together. I expressed gratitude to them. But it’s also. It’s just this. It should be a celebration because it’s also. Who the hell knows what’s going to happen? Things leave, things come back. People leave, People come back. I’ve had that happen more than once. But when we hold on and we don’t allow the cycle, like I think that is something like, thank you for bringing it up. 

Nicole Laino
Because I think that it brings up another point which is that when we hold onto something longer than we should and we’re not. Even if it’s energetically like we let it go, but we didn’t really let it go. It just. It never. It’s not complete. So it’s also not free to come back to you. Then it’s not. You’re holding on artificially. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
And it’s keeping so much from going on. And that is the lesson of this channel, is that it does tell you that in order. It’s the wisdom to know when to start things and the wisdom to know when they end. To allow both things to happen without worrying about what comes next and just trusting that the fuel and the fire and the wisdom will be there to sustain it as long as it’s meant to go and then. But to close it out when it’s time for it to end. And that’s like that middle of the month. I see that being a theme. 

Christina Luna
You know, I actually have a note on that week from the 19th all the way till the 25th. That’s going to be a pretty powerful week because I think that people will really be making these revolutionary moves. They’re going to. You’re going to see people feel really powered in those choices. And I feel like there will be some of us that feel a little left out in the cold, like weren’t chosen. I’m hoping that we can bring a lot of understanding and grace because this feels like a destined shift. There was nothing that we could have done differently to not make these changes. You know what you’re talking about? The cycle just ends. You can’t mourn that. You can’t put the orchid flower back onto the plant. It is just time for that flower to drop and we can feel whatever we want. 

Christina Luna
And oftentimes the energy of a week like this can bring up feelings of. I don’t want to hurt their feelings. I don’t want them to feel left out in the cold, but I have to choose this. I must choose this. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. 

Christina Luna
And I definitely see that. And I definitely see that once those shifts are made, it really frees up bandwidth for everyone. Like, clarity is kind. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, no, and that’s what happens. And that is the lesson of this. It’s like you let it go and what did you create space for that person. So you might see the month of April where there’s just this end, because there’s this theme of beginnings and endings is just this consistent thing moving in and out of the. At least the human design gates. That week that you talked about, you know, around the 19th, the sun is in the gate of ordering is what it’s called, which is also known as difficulty at the beginning, which is like when everything looks like chaos at the beginning of whatever, scattershot everything everywhere. And then you’re trying to put the pieces together to make sense of how do we move forward. But that is the energy of innovation and where innovation is born from. It’s the brainstorm. Right. 

Nicole Laino
What do you do with a brainstorm? You could just write shit on a board a bunch of times. But it’s what you do with that stuff that you put on the board. You’re going to erase some stuff, you’re going to cross it out, you’re going to circle some things because you’re like, I’m coming back to this. That’s the energy of it. It’s like, we don’t know what this is yet, but the raw material is here. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, yeah. 

Nicole Laino
And then I see, like the ball getting passed back and forth between some of the gates we have. There’s a lot of controlling energy that comes in here. Certainly at the end of the month. We started off the beginning of the month not to backtrack, but like that first week, the sun is in the gate of control. But then, like all the closer planets, do they eventually get there very close in time. But the end of the month, we’ve got Mercury and Mars that are dancing in this space of control and shock courage. So there’s a little bit of that, like it’s different shades of ego is how it comes through here. And like that the 20th on they play this little game back and forth. But that I think Mars in the 21st gate and Mars in the 51st gate. 

Nicole Laino
This is like Mars’s big energy here is I want to control it. 21 Is known as the hunter Huntress. And if you think about it from that perspective of I eat what I kill and I’m gonna eat, so I’m gonna go hunt and if I hunt every day, then I eat every day, that’s what the 21st gate can want. So you might see a little bit of that with. You might have a little bit of an edge to your communication. You might feel very action oriented. And just notice if that feels like a healthy way because there I think that it’s divine. Masculine says I do have to take action if I want to get what I want. But I’m not going to do that from a place of pure ego, of show you how big I am and how much I can do. 

Nicole Laino
And I’m also not going to do it from a place of I’m so scared that I won’t get what I need, that I must control everything. So I think it’s like that is the energy sort of asking us to see where we land in that space at the end of the month. Right after is when we cross over into Taurus season, the sun will be moving on. These are still a lot of planets playing in Aries at that time. So I think that’s gonna be asking us to check in with ourselves in that respect. Yeah. 

Christina Luna
And you brought up ego. The first three signs of the zodiac, Aries, Taurus and Gemini. That is an entire arrow of manifestation. I like to think that the cardinal sign at the beginning of each cycle is pulling an arrow. And this is the most personal, most self centered, most personally identified arrow of manifestation. We have to know that we are an individual, we are the center of our perspective. And so we are being asked to acknowledge the one person we are and pull the arrow back from our own ego, from our own individuality, from our own desires. And we’re going to challenge that. 

Christina Luna
It will be challenged while it’s moving through Taurus to see if it’s sustainable, if it can actually be resourced enough, if there’s enough energy and attention and focus and consistent effort to back up what it is we personally desire to create. And this month of April is all about that part of the cycle. So our ego, we’re meant to actually take Our ego in our hands and say, yes, I’m not going to shame the fact that I have an ego. I’m not going to shame that I have my own desires, my own preferences. This is who I am. This is my life. I have to own this. I have to claim it. If I do it really well now, I won’t have to borrow from some future moment to reestablish that later. 

Nicole Laino
Well, exactly. And I’m glad that you brought that up, because we will when we’re through with April. May is going to move us into that second quarter in the human design cycle, which is the concretizing. We are in the like. All right, let’s see what we got. What are we gonna do? Ideating. What’s the plan? And in April, we’re starting with the like, okay, well, let’s play with actually doing something. We were thinking a whole lot up until now. And then Aries comes in. That pulling back of the arrow is like, there is a lot of action in this moment and in this month. And I think we’re also showing ourselves, like, this is a gym. This is, like, where we get to play. 

Nicole Laino
And like I said, you know that us getting that 25, 51 channel, us getting that, we get that twice in the month. We get it at the end of the month, and we get it at the beginning of the month. That channel of initiation, I made a point of saying that it’s. You develop courage through just taking steps, being first, going first. It is a channel of not knowing how it’s all going to work out, but having. But courage is developed through that. And the 25th gate is an identity gate. So it’s where ego meets identity. It is where divine masculine action, by taking it, changes who you are on, like, a spiritual, deep level. 

Nicole Laino
The action that you take in the month of April, we always get gay 51, but we don’t always get Neptune in the 25th gate, completing the channel we don’t always get. We have the 25th gate coming up in another place, I believe, too, on here. But we don’t always get this channel at this month. So I think we’re getting it for a reason. This is a playground for you to take chances to change who you are. The action you take in April will shift you on a cellular level of how you feel about yourself. You brought up identity before. Who am I? Who you are is dictated by what you do, not just what you think. 

Christina Luna
That’s right. And I was getting. While you were speaking, I was like, wow, the people that this is going to be the hardest for are people who had to sacrifice their authenticity for attachment in previous parts of their cycle. If you have a lot of Libra placements, because Libra is the opposite of Aries, we do have a Libra full moon, like the very first week of April. And that’s a really good time to ask yourself, how much of my authentic identity have I sacrificed in order to make peace, in order to keep harmony, in order to keep connection, in order to be in relationship, in order to be like, accepted. 

Christina Luna
And so the people that this will be the hardest month for are people who have a lot of unconscious patterns around sacrificing their own authenticity for harmony or for in exchange for secure attachment. And so if that sounds like something that we have struggled with, this is a really good month to be like, you know what? This is my life. If I don’t claim this life, how long will I let it be someone else’s? How long will I follow someone else’s for someone else’s approval, someone else’s expectations, someone else’s whatever, telling someone else, telling me that I’m okay, how I am. And so it’s a really tender moment if we’re just being authentic, maybe for the first time in our lives, just giving ourselves permission for that. And also be so compassionate with yourself as we’re navigating that. 

Christina Luna
I know there are parts of me that just discovered where my authenticity was sacrificed for connection, just uncovered it in the last month. And I’m a pretty self aware girl. But it is a another moment to peel it back, another moment to get in touch with it. 

Nicole Laino
And we never know ourselves completely. There’s always another layer, there’s always another level. And you have a lot of Libra placements, don’t you? 

Christina Luna
I’m practically, yeah, lots of Libra. 

Nicole Laino
Like you’re almost there, you’re on the cusp. Anyway. 

Christina Luna
Yeah, Virgo Libra being. 

Nicole Laino
Well, that’s like my whole chart is just. It’s like Virgo Scorpio. Like it’s all like a little bowl on the side of the, on the top half of the chart. But yeah, I feel like that’s. We are self aware, but I think that’s where this type of work is so important because the surface level questions for anybody. And I think a lot of people who listen to the show are self aware and deep and have done the journaling and have done the gone on the retreats and done ayahuasca and things like that where they’ve gone on these journeys. But It’s I think that stuff like this, like astrology, like human design, gets us asking the questions that are beneath the surface, that get us to that. And the energy pushes it and is. Wait, here, this is present. I thought I knew the answer. 

Nicole Laino
That’s how I felt in Pisces season. I thought I knew a lot of these answers. I thought, like, I’ve asked these questions before, but I didn’t realize I was still afraid of that thing. I didn’t realize I still had that anxiety around that. I didn’t realize that was still lurking until I felt it. And I felt it because the energy made me crazy a little bit for a while. But it surfaced this thing that I was able to look at from a whole different way. So I think you’re talking about that from the authenticity standpoint. So for anybody, if you have a lot of Libra placements in your chart, you want to maybe be looking at those. What house do those sit in? What’s being challenged here? Where are you being called to examine? 

Nicole Laino
Where maybe you’ve sacrificed your own authenticity for harmony, for peace, in a relationship of some kind? 

Christina Luna
Yeah. And I will just say, if this is you, I don’t have any planets in Aries is a very like. I need somehow to be frustrated through relationship or disturbed or perturbed through relationship to know what’s actually going on with me. And it’s really easy to go ahead and make it about the other person or make it like, try to project the issue onto the relationship experience as a whole. But because we are self aware and we know that if we’re feeling something, it’s ours to investigate, that is actually the gateway to finding what preference or authentic expression within me have I suppressed? Am I suppressing what Am I denying myself from being able to taste fully? That’s frustrating me. 

Christina Luna
Because I can see someone else doing it or because I can, because I’m projecting and fixating and fascinated by what this other person is doing, experiencing, enjoying, et cetera. So I really have to use a lot of relationship as my mirror and I have to really actively personalize it for myself in order to find my own issues. 

Nicole Laino
Aren’t maps wonderful, though? 

Christina Luna
They’re wonderful. 

Nicole Laino
Give us these little portals to understand ourselves, to know that’s how you are going to discover yourself. It’s probably going to be through this world of relationship and then playing with that. And because, I mean, when you first learn this stuff, it starts out at that surface level, but when you start doing it for a while, you’re like, okay, I’VE explored that, I’ve explored that. And then suddenly you discover this whole other dimension with these things. Is there anything else that you wanted that you got circled on your calendar? Anything that you’re looking out for or paying attention to this month? 

Christina Luna
Yeah, I would definitely have everyone circle the 24th and 25th. We’re gonna have both Venus and Uranus moving into Gemini on those days. And if anyone was curious about how Gemini feels different from Taurus, that’s gonna be the day to pay attention. 

Nicole Laino
Oh, no. 

Christina Luna
Because we have this. Of having both Venus and Uranus at the same time doing it. And I think it’s going to create an abrupt awareness of something that is just. We’re just not into it anymore because the sun will also be squaring Pluto on the same day. So it’s just going to be this, like, really stark, clear change in our nervous system. So I would be looking for that, and I probably would be, too. Make strong assumptions until after that’s taken place. 

Nicole Laino
Okay. 

Christina Luna
I think hold it. Let the pressure of exploration and curiosity, let that be held in a way that will expand us. Expand, expand. And then we’ll be able to speak about it, share about it, understand it, grock it, get it into the mind space and out of the unconscious body. 

Nicole Laino
Space and tell everybody just very quickly what’s going to be. We talked a little bit about Uranus in Taurus and what it was doing, and without telegraphing what they’re going to feel. But what is the difference between Taurus and Gemini, Particularly through that Uranus lens of being, like, the rule breaker, the disruptor, and all of that. I think that there’s also. There’s a lot of stuff online that will talk about historically that this is when wars are started. This is that there can be some real scary doomsday stuff shared about these kind of things. But how do you see that shift from. Obviously, Taurus and Gemini are different, but our listeners may not understand exactly what the implications of that might feel like. 

Christina Luna
I’m going to humbly admit that because I have not personally lived through anything like this. Yeah, I remember when I was speculating about Uranus moving into Taurus, and I remember feeling into it before it came and then being with it and being. 

Nicole Laino
Like, oh, this is so different. 

Christina Luna
Hey. So I can reflect on. Okay. I’m projecting into what I think it is, but it’s probably going to be very different. So what I can say is Gemini is a mutable air sign, while Taurus is a Fixed Earth sign while Uranus moves through Taurus. The revolutions around the changes and shifts around what we actually need to feel sustainable in our lives. So a lot of shifts around money, finances, feeling like we’re essential, feeling like we’re doing the essential, knowing what the essential needs are that we have, that’s all going to move into this place, around the stories and narratives that we tell between each other. It’s the first interpersonal sign, Gemini rules. It’s the stage of development where you realize that you have a sibling in the house and they have been there, they were there before you. 

Christina Luna
Maybe I was an oldest child, so I didn’t have a sibling in the house before. But I remember the clear distinction of there’s a you and there’s a me and things from that perspective. I see things from this perspective. And so I think we’re going to start really thinking about stories as a culture, stories as people with different perspectives. And I think that hopefully there can be some growth and compassion and patience. But at the beginning of a cycle, that’s not. When those, when that medicine comes in. Yeah. Like oftentimes there’s clashes of opinion, there’s clashes of story, there’s people speaking stories over each other. And so it’s probably better to narrow it down to the area of your life where you have Gemini, where it’s opening up. 

Christina Luna
And so I guess if I was going to give one blanket statement, it would be identify the preferences and opinions you have and know that they’re just preferences and opinions. They’re not truth. Gemini is the opposite of Sagittarius. Gemini opinions. Opinions are not universal truths. Opinions can be true for you, but the way you know it’s not universal is if it can’t also be true for someone else. Like, absolutely. It’s just an opinion. And universal truths are blanket truths, philosophical truths, and we sometimes get confused about those. So I think that we’re going to notice that a lot of public opinion, a lot of cultural opinion, it’s not a law, it’s just an opinion, it’s just a story, it’s not a universal law. And so that could be where the destabilization starts. And then we have this whole seven year evolution of that. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah. And I mean, I’m already seeing some of that start to play out because these transitional moments, it’s like that day will feel like it’ll officially move over, but I think we’re already starting to see some of that happen. And I absolutely do appreciate that. Disclaimer at the beginning of none of us were alive? Well, I guess not. None, but probably nobody listening to this show was alive. The last time Uranus was in Gemini. 

Christina Luna
I think it’s like 84 years or something. 

Nicole Laino
Yeah, it was like in the 1930s, right? 1940S. 30S, 40s. It was when World War II started, I believe. 

Christina Luna
So, yeah, you can even look at that. Right? There was a really strong story being told culturally that clashed with another story being told culturally. And both parties believed that they were leading a universal truce. These cultural stories are just opinions. And they’re long held opinions sometimes, but they’re just opinions. They’re not natural law. Gemini is not natural law. And so we’re going to feel very right about what we believe. We’re going to feel right about our stories. It’s a good time for reading memoirs, for writing memoirs, for sharing intimate stories so that we can gain a larger capacity for storytelling. 

Nicole Laino
I like that. 

Christina Luna
That’s a really good time for storytelling. I think if for people like you and I, if we can start being in the world with more of our personal story as an example of the universal truth, it will benefit us a lot. I’ve even noticed that in my own, like, writing that I’ve gone from collectively, it feels like this. I’ve been like, no, right now my heart feels tender. I am like, I’m expanding. My heart is trying to grow around something that it’s never metabolized before. 

Nicole Laino
So I think something that’s interesting that you made me think about was, I wonder if. Are you on the sub stack? Are you. Do you. Are you over there? 

Christina Luna
No, I’m not. 

Nicole Laino
Like, I just started playing around over there and I’m enjoying it. And the thing that I’m feeling more comfortable with over there is the storytelling aspect of. And I don’t normally share. I’m not a big divulger of my story because I think in my mind, my practical mind, it’s like, who cares what my story is? Who gives a shit? But over there, I do feel like that’s because a culture has been created around this, like, you know, weaving yourself into what you’re talking about, where it isn’t just content and it isn’t just tips. It’s this place where people are sharing stories. And I see people really gravitating toward that space. It’s becoming very big for a lot of people, obviously. But it’s also just. It’s very different conversation than any of the other platforms are having. 

Nicole Laino
And who knows, maybe that’s a place where people can feel they can go and exercise their story a little bit. Maybe you want to share it for yourself, and then maybe you want to put it out to the world, and that might be a platform for you. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
But any other dates or things that you’re like, we need to tell the people about before we close it down for the month. 

Christina Luna
I might make a real detailed video for my YouTube, but I. Overall, I. That’s the primary one that really sticks out, and I feel like we’ve covered everything I’m feeling about April. 

Nicole Laino
That’s how I feel. I feel like we have these, like, two themes. For me, there’s two big themes that are happening that first to second week of that initiation. Then we get it again at the end, but they’re both followed closely. There’s these two themes that happen twice that happen. The initiation theme and the opening and closing of cycles. That’s the story for me, from a human design perspective of April is knowing when to. No one to hold them, no one to fold them, and when is it time to take a chance on yourself? And how does that shape your identity as a human, as an individual? To say, like, I did this thing, therefore I’ve changed. That’s a story of April. 

Christina Luna
Oh, I do have one last thing. Yeah. For a brief time between April 9th and April 24th. 

Nicole Laino
Okay. 

Christina Luna
Mars will be in his temple of Aries, and Venus will be in her temple of Taurus. It’s a pretty short period of time, but. But I think if any person is studying their own masculine and feminine energy, their ability to receive, and their ability to put energy outward, this is a really good time because the planets will be in their most aligned temples. And so it’s just a great time for witnessing how we’re working with masculine and feminine energy in our lives. 

Nicole Laino
I love that call out. 

Christina Luna
Thank you. 

Nicole Laino
I like that I didn’t pick up on that one, so I love that you did. Thank you for sharing. All right, I think we’ve said it all. We’re gonna leave them here. Y’ all have plenty to go on. I think this will be a fun month, though. I think if you go through it, and I think the biggest. To me, it’s like the thing that would be missed is if you don’t take action in April, not from a false place, but you’re going to be called. You’re going to feel moved, you are going to feel a pull, and if you don’t answer it, I think that you will find it hard in Taurus season. You’re going to want to Start something, and the energy will not be supporting it the way that it does. 

Nicole Laino
In April, in May, it’s going to be like, now we’re working with the materials that we brought to the table. And it’s like, if you didn’t go grab those materials and bring them to the table, you’re looking around at the rest of the class with an empty table, and you’re just like, wait, what are we building? And everybody’s, I’m building my thing. 

Christina Luna
Yeah. 

Nicole Laino
That’s what I feel. So this is a courage month. This is gonna be. This is an action month. Do it from, like, really tune into yourself. So you’re doing that from a place of real alignment and not from force. 

Christina Luna
Yep. 

Nicole Laino
All right. How can everybody stay in touch with you? What do you have going on? How can people keep going with you? 

Christina Luna
Oh, okay. Yeah. So April is open enrollment for stepping into quarterly readings. I was very reluctant to open that last month because I was already feeling the pressure of everything. But I do have spaciousness near the end of April for people to step into quarterly readings. And I strongly suggest they step in during this one because this is actually the first quarter of the astrological year. And it will give them kind of a foundation for an entire year of understanding those cycles within themselves. So if you’ve been feeling called, if you’ve been feeling like you don’t know when the right time to start those is, this would be a pretty good window to start. 

Nicole Laino
You’ll be happy that you did. I don’t know. I know so many people that are doing these readings with you now, and everybody’s. 

Christina Luna
I love my reading. 

Nicole Laino
I love my quarterly reading, and I love it. I go back to mine over and over again throughout the month, throughout the quarter, not just the month. They’re awesome. So highly recommend jumping on that and grabbing a spot while they’re still available. Because she does fill up. We’ll link up all of Christina’s stuff in the show notes, but of course, you can follow her on Instagram at Lunation Live. And then for us, if you love the transits, if you love everything that we’re going through, you should jump into the Human Design Authority lab. We do a little transit call out on the sun gates, but we’re also doing all sorts of cool stuff in there. You get monthly masterclasses with me where I do a different human design topic every month. In April, we’re doing the Unconscious Mars. Career Gate is our masterclass. 

Nicole Laino
You get the VIP and everything with the membership. You get co working sessions. You get all sorts of stuff, plus an awesome community. It’s a great way to, like, really commit to your human design journey. So if you’re interested in that, just DM me lab on Instagram. I’m @nicolelainoofficial. Or you can check out the link in the show notes. All right. Thank you, my friend. Always a pleasure and an honor to have you with us. Thank you for being here. 

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Christina Luna
My pleasure. 

Nicole Laino
And thank you for making it all the way to the end with us. Listener. Remember, in order to have an unshakable business, you must first become an unshakeable human. So thanks for letting us help you become unshakable with Human Design. We’ll see you next time.