Episode 379
Ever wonder why some people seem to grow into their leadership over time, almost as if they’re being shaped by life itself?
In this episode, Nicole explores the 6/2 Human Design profile — the Role Model/Hermit — and what makes this path so unique, complex, and ultimately powerful. If you’re someone who feels like you’re living in chapters, or if life has been asking you to slow down, reflect, and rise when the time is right, this one will resonate deeply.
Nicole unpacks the three life phases of the 6-line journey, how the Hermit’s natural gifts are revealed over time, and why the role model energy of the 6/2 isn’t something you chase — it’s something you grow into. She also breaks down how this profile compares to the 3/6 and 4/6, why the rooftop years are so important, and how the call to leadership usually shows up.
You’ll walk away with a better understanding of why things may not have made sense in your first few decades — and why your most important work might be just beginning. With real-world examples of famous 6/2s and honest reflections on how to embrace this profile fully, this episode is both grounding and inspiring.
Whether you are a 6/2 or love someone who is, this conversation will help you see the brilliance in the timing, the beauty in the waiting, and the power in finally being seen. Listen now!
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Transcript
Episode 379
Hello and welcome to Unshakeable With Human Design. I’m your host, Nicole Laino, and we are here. We’re ending our profile series, not today. We have one more episode left after this one, and I know that I got so many dms and so many emails and comments on our YouTube asking when is the profile series coming back, and so thank you for being patient with us.
While we had to take our little break, we came back. Just two days ago with our five two episode, and we’re continuing with the six two. We’re continuing with this profile series. I promised you we would finish it and here I am delivering on that promise. We are diving into the role model hermit today, the six to profile.
So we went from the five two. So we went five one. Then we changed the design number to the two. So we did five two. Now we’re going up the hexagram and we are hitting, we’re changing the personality number to the six, and the two stays the same in the back. So that’s how we work our way up. It’s like a stair step, you know, we change one of the numbers and we leave the other one alone.
So now we’re seeing the, for the first time, the personality six line and the sixth line we’ve seen in the three six. The four six. So we’ve seen it in the design side, in the unconscious side, but now we’re seeing the role model out in front and we get a very, very different expression here. And we’ve talked about this before, where this is what determines, because the six.
Is an outward facing, it is part of the second floor. It is part of interacting with other people is what the six is about. Although it does it differently than the other two types, the four and the five. But it is about externalization. It is not an internal process. So we get a transpersonal destiny with a six line personality and that changes everything.
And what we get is we get different. You’ll see that if you look at incarnation crosses, there is a right angle cross, but the minute we go into a five or a six line profile, then we get, or a five or six line personality profile, I should say. We get a trans person, we get a different destiny. Those design, sun and earth change in those incarnation crosses.
So we get a very different expression. We get a very different purpose. So everything changes when we change the six from the design side to the personality side. So we’re gonna get into what all of this means. We’re gonna break down how this profile differs from the three six and the four six. And I’m gonna take you through what this expression really looks like.
And of course we’ll end with some famous six twos so that you get to understand what this looks like. We’re walking out in the world. I think that examples sometimes help paint a picture for us. So, but before we do, I wanna just call out that if you are looking to dive into, start merging human design into your business, you wanna start to play around with it and start to see how specifically profile plays out in your business, specifically around the world of content.
We have a new program called Content by Design. This is a bite-sized program designed to get you results. Quickly get you into action, quickly, get you understanding, and kind of take you through sort of a little micro piece of human design and business. To take you through that very, very quickly and but still go very in depth.
If you wanna know more about that, we cover profile and type content by profile and content by type. So we’re going into your brand voice and all of that. We’re going into how to be more productive around content, how to create content in alignment with your design. So it’s a really, really awesome program.
We’re already getting amazing feedback from the people who have already bought into it. If you’re interested in that, just DM me the word content on Instagram. I’m @nicolelainoofficial or go to nicole laino.com/content and we can get you the details right there on the website. Okay, so let’s dive in to the six two profile.
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So first of all, having that six out in front, if you listened to all of the episodes up till now, I apologize for repeating myself because you heard me say this. Three, six episode, and as well as the four six episode. But maybe you didn’t listen to every episode in this series. Maybe you skipped over the ones that didn’t pertain to you or a family member, and this is the first time you’re hearing about a six.
If that’s the case, I wanna make sure that I take care of you too. So if you heard this before, just bear with me, but we’re gonna talk about what the six line profile is. The sixth line profile is unique in and of itself. The sixth line is it sits on top of the hexagram, so it’s sitting on the roof, so to speak, until it’s about 30 years old or at 30 years old.
It moves over onto the roof. Let me back up and just say it goes through a three stage life process. Let’s start there. It goes through the sixth line, goes through a three stage life process. This is one of the things that makes it so unique. This is one of the ways that it becomes a role model. It is a journey that the six goes on, and this journey starts at birth as a three line.
So it starts in our house analogy, where if you look at every line of the, uh, every line of the hexagram, the one line, two line, three line, four line, five line, six line. Our floors are on floors of a house, one, two, and three. First floor, right? Has to do with itself. It’s deep inside the house, right? First line is the foundation.
Then you get to the four, five, and six that are on the second floor of the house with the six kind of sitting on top of it, sort of looking out the window, not paying attention to anything that’s going on in the house. But for the first 30 years of life, it’s on the first floor as a three. It hasn’t gone upstairs yet, so that first 30 years it is messing up.
It is having a trial and error process with its life. That is how the six starts. It starts out kind of knowing it’s a six. It doesn’t feel just like a three. It. It kind of knows that it’s on this bigger journey. So what we can find is that six lines, a lot of times, you know, when they were younger, they felt like they can have that.
You know, I get that this is all working for me. I get that this is part of the journey. I get that this is part of a bigger story. They can have that sense of it from forever, from the time they are born, or they might feel like they hold themselves to a very high standard ’cause six is due. They hold everybody to a very high standard, including themselves or especially themselves.
And that can make that first 30 years kind of rough. ’cause the six is sitting there saying, I should have been better, I should have done better. I should have known better. ’cause I know I’m better than that, that we wanna stay away from that. So if you have kids that are sixes, please, please, please allow them to fail.
Allow them to have friendships that don’t go well. Allow them to have relationships that don’t go well. And when they’re teenagers or when they’re in their twenties, you might see someone get married and get divorced as a sixth line very, very early in life, or they get married early and then they get divorced after they go onto the roof, which we’re gonna talk about that phase in just a second.
It’s important to allow that process to happen. ’cause not everything that happens in those first 30 years is gonna be around for the next 20. In fact, probably a lot of it will go and that’s normal and that needs to be accepted and it needs to be. Looked at and sometimes celebrated because the first 30 years are about being detached, learning, trying new things, learning and growing from those experiences.
Then around the age of 30, usually about 28 to 30, they go up on the roof, and this is that first Saturn return. So now what they do is they stop being a three. They go up to that second floor of the house, they climb up to the second floor. And now they’re, they go all the way up, they go all the way up to the roof.
They don’t stop and talk to anybody on that second floor. They go up to the roof and they say, I’m just gonna hang out up here for a while. I’m gonna hang out up here for maybe the next 20 years, and I’m just gonna watch everything and I’m gonna reflect on everything that I did in those first 30 years.
I’m gonna retreat and I’m gonna heal, and I’m gonna, I’m going to reflect, I’m gonna watch myself. I’m gonna watch other people and I’m gonna basically develop my wisdom up here. That’s what the six is Doing. That 20 year span from 30 to 50 is so crucial to the evolution of the six. ’cause they cannot become the role model without doing it.
They cannot become the role model without changing in these 20 years, in that 20 year span. They process so much. They also, they’re sitting on the roof. They can see things. The rest of us don’t see. This is what makes the six a visionary. They’re not just a role model. They’re able to see what’s really important.
They are quite literally above the fray in that respect. They’re up on top of the roof. So if they’re watching everybody fighting and they’re watching everybody get into their stuff and they’re watching all these things go wrong and they’re watching these things go right, they are able to see. Further and they’re able to see from a bird’s eye view what’s really happening.
You know that feeling when you are an outsider watching something and you can see it so clearly, but the people who are in it can’t, ’cause they’re too close to it, they’re too involved, they’re too in the weeds. But because you are this outside observer, you can see, right. Usually we could see really clearly what other people have going on, right?
Because we are, we are watching, but we’re not involved. So it’s not personal. This is what the six does. They can see what’s really happening because they are not involved. It’s a protection for them to be up on that roof. Now, some sixes can feel. Like they are removed. They can feel like they are not really connected to people and that can feel weird.
And what I find with a lot of them is that it feels right for them, but they feel bad, they feel guilty. I don’t feel, you know, as connected to my kids as I should or my partner as I should. I just, I feel like I’m kind of. Arms length with people. Well, that’s the aloofness of the six. And we wanna create connections with people.
But we also, you know, as a six, you probably normal, particularly if the first 30 years you are learning things about yourself through doing, and now you’re learning through retreating, there’s still processing going on. And like I said, sixes hold everyone to a very high standard, especially themselves, especially their partners.
I. Sixes really want everything to be perfect because there’s an optimism to them that says, we can be, we could get it right. That is what the six is about. So when we have a six line personality, we have a six two, we have somebody who’s going to be a role model, who’s on a journey of becoming a role model, and who will be called out for what for their talents.
They’ll be asked to be a role model for whatever that two holds, something specific about them. Something so ingrained and innate in them that wasn’t learned, it was not taught, it just was, and these people, other people will spot it. You have to be chosen as a role model, and that’s really what happens in that third phase.
That third phase of 50 plus is when you get called down off the roof. For you. If you’re a six two, you’ll be called down on off the roof for some talent that you hold, for some talent that you’ve nurtured through your Hermiting time, which that second 20 years, that 30 to 50 feels great to the hermit.
The two line is like, yes, I’ve been waiting for this. That first 30 years was a lot, but you nurture your talent in those 20 years and then you get called for that talent. In the last third of your life, that third act for a sixth line is important. What you’re being called for is something that was born in you.
So it’s important that you pay attention to what people are calling you for. I know a lot of six lines who come into my world and you know, around the age of 48, 49, sometimes 50, sometimes they’ve just crossed over. Usually it’s in that 45, but I get a lot of people, right, 48, 49, and they say, I know something’s coming.
I know something’s changing because it is. And they’re starting to recognize themselves and they’re starting to see their talents. I’ve had a lot of six two clients and they’re very unin, unassuming crowd. They’re not bombastic. They are not. They’re not shouting from the rooftops that they’re the best.
Usually they’re a bit reserved in that respect. I don’t mean that they don’t have big personalities, ’cause that is not necessarily, you know, you can have a, one of my best friends, a six two manifesting generator with big, big energy. And she’s big energy, but she’s also, there is quiet leadership about her.
There is a steadiness, a wisdom to her. And she’s not at that 50 mark yet. As she gets closer to it, that wisdom, I see it. I’ve known her for five years now and I’ve watched this culminating event coming. You know, I know that that wisdom is deepening within her. Her talent has only just started to be recognized.
So if you are a six two and you feel like you’re in the waiting room, well you might be. And it does not mean I’ve had sixes of all kinds come to me and say, well, does this mean that I can’t lead and I can’t do anything and I can’t teach and I can’t, I can’t be, you know what I wanna be until I’m 50. And it’s No, of course not.
It’s just, it probably, I can almost guarantee you that it’ll change when you’re 50. I guarantee you there will be something, some new ta-da at that 50 year mark. Where you say, yeah, I can’t do this stuff anymore, or It’s gotta change, or Now I feel like I’m at this level. And if you’ve been working through that whole time and you have been doing inner work, and you have been retreating, and you have been reflecting, and you have been paying attention to what you see, I promise you you’ll be called six.
Twos are always called. You’re a fascinating bunch to watch ’cause you are so naturally talented. There is something that is that it just about what you do. It’s just you do it unlike anybody else. This is like, I’ve, I’ve said on the show before, the two line, my psychics and my, my channelers and these people, they’re two lines.
The talent, that innate talent and sometimes it takes a little while for them to accept that. To recognize that ’cause it’s a weird gift. It can be a scary gift that sometimes we don’t know how it will be received. The six cannot be worried about what other people will think or feel about who they are.
You’re not a role model for those people that don’t get it. You’re a role model for other people and you can’t be a role model for those other people if you refuse to come off that hill if you refuse to come off the roof. Right? It is such a privilege in my world to be able to watch these profiles and these aspects of design out in the world and to, to watch them operate sixes There there is a quiet wisdom to these people.
There is a leadership quality. This is the new leader. The new leader is the six two, the six two and six three different type of leader. We’ll get to the six three in the six three episode when we end this whole beautiful series. But the six two is a new kind of leader. It’s the leader that I think we’ve been waiting for, someone who can see the big picture and not from a place of power.
I’m a five one. I love my five one and I love my five one people. We are the leaders of yesterday. That doesn’t mean we can’t lead, doesn’t mean that at all. We just lead in our way. And the five resonates with guilt, power, fixing things, problem solving. It’s very tactical. Right? And there was a time where tactical leadership was the thing.
We’ve noticed now you’ve probably seen us start to shift and say, maybe we need something different. I wish I could say that we’re seeing it in our politics as much as I would like to see it, where we’re calling to a higher level leader rather than regressing toward strong man dictator style leadership, because that is yesterday.
The new world, the reason we’re all feeling more cosmically connected. The reason we’re looking into things like human design and systems like this to understand ourselves more now more than ever is because we are being called to something greater and it’s the sixes that will lead us there. It is the sixes who will be able to say, I can see beyond this spot that we’re in right now.
I. Practical leadership looks at what we have and says, how do we fix the problems we have? Then the six says, I’ve been looking out beyond the problems that we have for so long that I understand where we’re going and these problems we have right now. Might just be a distraction. There’s a new way. The six doesn’t care as much about itself.
The five cares about itself, and that’s not a dig at any of us who are fives. And um, I also wanna make it very, very clear we are people beyond this. Everyone has an individual I. Set of values, an individual operating system. An individual like you are an individual being with the choices that you make.
And I never mean to make it sound like anybody because you have something like for the fives. It doesn’t mean you cannot be leaders. It does not mean that you are selfish. It doesn’t mean that you are power hungry and greedy. Not at all, but the five line as an archetype. That archetype is not who the new world needs.
Fives will still be useful. I’m still very useful. We tend to to be useful. That’s who we are. But as we go into a new world, into a new way of being where we are requiring different tools and a different set of plans for how we progress. ’cause if it’s all feeling a little bit difficult right now, don’t we need a new perspective?
Don’t we need somebody who can say no, what we’ve got going here actually. This got us here, but it won’t get us there. And if we wanna get there, then we have to look beyond just this. I see this as like, I believe James Wedmore is a six two. James was one of my first coaches in this industry, and he started, at least on this level in this industry.
He was the first person that I heard talking about mindset. Talking about energy, talking about strategy paired with energy, that it wasn’t just about the tactical stuff. It wasn’t just about the strategy, it was about more than that. And I think other people have taken that even further, and I think he’s gone even further with it since I first heard it, you know, six or seven years ago.
But that’s a six, two vision of saying, no, no, no. What got you here won’t get you there. We need different tools to get to this new place that we’re going. We need a new ship, right? The sixes and the six twos, they’re the ones who give us the new ship and they can deliver that message when they’re aligned in a way that people really respond to.
Because even, you know, sixes are watched, people pay attention to the six, you know, even though they’re up on the roof, people are looking at ’em being like, I see you up there. What are you doing up there? Wonder what she’s thinking. And there is just a sense of they’re seen as a leader. Naturally people gravitate toward them, and I will say in my own life, when a six comes into my life and seeking me out as a coach or seeking me out for other things, they have opened up doors for me, both inside of me and in the outside world that nobody else could.
They tend to be great champions for the people that they believe in. And I know Rah always said that the sixes are the only ones who can truly see the fives because they’re not in the house. They’re above the house and they see it when a six can call out the five for being a superstar when a six anoints a five, other people tend to believe that and trust the five where they may not be trusted otherwise.
’cause people are weary of fives. The six, the endorsement of a six, four or five carries a lot of weight. I have seen that myself in my own life, and I know RAW talked about that and when I heard it, I kind of clocked it and then I thought about the people who have really truly opened doors for me and who have expanded me.
They’ve been sixes. So it’s a big role to be a role model and it’s a journey. You have to be willing to go on that whole journey. You can’t just accept certain parts of it. You have to be willing to get messy in those first 30 years. You’ve gotta be willing to let relationships go. You’ve gotta be willing to grow beyond the things that maybe you grabbed onto in those first 30 years that no longer serve you.
You have to be willing to go up on the roof and chill and think, and process and heal and reflect. Without that, you cannot be called off that hill, and if you don’t hermit enough, remember there’s a difference between hermiting and hiding, but if you don’t hermit enough where you’re nurturing your natural talent, then the call may not come in the way that you hope.
People won’t see that in you. It’s the hermiting that helps bring that out. What is it that you do when nobody’s around? What is the thing that you do that maybe you’re afraid to tell people? What is special about you that you feel needs to be nurtured? Recognize it. It might be pretty, what feels like pretty mundane to you.
I promise you somebody finds it to be fascinating and mind blowing. Just nurture it. They’ll see it, but you do have to come down off that roof. You do have to allow yourself to be seen. The six walks around the village like a sage. The six is like the Buddha on the hill. What’s your wisdom? What is the wisdom that you have to share is the question that every six has to ask itself and certainly every six two, so some famous six twos to give you to round out the episode with some examples for you to, for you to reflect on some famous six twos, Barack Obama.
We talked about a different kind of leader. I think there is a quiet. Leadership quality, a wisdom to him, something that feels measured and careful, but also visionary. So Barack Obama, Billy Joel is a six two. George Lucas, uh, the from the Star Wars fame, the creator of Star Wars, he is a six too. And that’s somebody who obviously had a big vision beyond what was here, right?
What is that vision about? I mean, the Star Wars movies are about the fight between good and evil and, you know, ultimate corruption of people and values and what power does to people. There’s a vision there that’s beyond just, you know, starships and blasters, you know, and lightsabers the very, very, uh, creative vision.
There’s a talent there. Right. and Bradley Cooper. Is another six two. Also Leonardo DiCaprio. I’ll throw in another one for you. Harry Truman was a six two. These are all six twos. Henry Ford six two. So these are all six twos. So what do you take from that? What do you take from those examples? What do you think those people exhibited as far as their role model, leadership qualities?
And it doesn’t always mean, I wanna always say that, that it doesn’t mean that you agree with them, it’s just can you get an essence for what a six two is? There is a naturalness to the six two. They’re not trying too hard. They might work very hard, but they’re not trying too hard. Okay? If you wanna get your hands on content by design, start bridging human design and bringing it into your business, please DM me the word content on Instagram.
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