This week is a wonderful conversation between Nicole and her friend, Nicholette von Reiche. Nicholette is a passive income sorceress and the founder and CEO of the Passive Income Agency, but she didn’t always incorporate energetic work into her practice. In fact, Nicholette used to be all strategy, until she discovered how understanding her Human Design could help her maximize both the work she was doing as well as help her create huge transformations in her clients’ lives and businesses.
Nicole & Nicholette discuss:
- Nicholette’s transition from pure strategy to incorporating energetic healing into her practice
- How learning about Human Design informed Nicholette’s life and business
- The way Nicholette frames being knocked off course to see every opportunity as an opportunity for growth
- Why learning to surrender is the key to growth in life and business
- How learning to listen to her sacral has been impactful for her
- Nicholette’s relationship to being a 6/3 profile
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Meet Nicholette von Reiche, Passive Income Sorceress and the Founder and CEO of the Passive Income Agency.
Her brand elevates women by turning their expertise into passive income. Using energetics, high-end design, and conversion strategy she helps her clients turn their soul-led work into passive cycles of wealth that deepen their potency and make their life and business flow more effortlessly.
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Transcript
Nicole Laino
Hello, and welcome to the limitless entrepreneur podcast. I’m your host, Nicole Laino. And today I am here. I’m very excited for this because I get to have one of my very, very good friends on the show. I always like when I get to have friends on the show. And Nicholette happens to be someone who’s very near and dear to my heart, and I’m excited to introduce you all to her. Nicholette von Reiche, she is a healer. She’s a business, sorceress, and a strategist. I’m so excited for you guys to hear from her. She’s a six, three sacral Mani Jen. And we’re going to talk about her journey just in all the things and I know that this is gonna be really interesting for you, because she’s she, she pulls from all of these different places, she pulls from the energetic side, and also a very strategic structured side, and brings them all together in the most beautiful way. So I think she’s like, kind of an embodiment of what the mission of the show is. So I’m so excited to introduce her to you, Nicolette, I am so happy to have you here. Welcome to the show.
Nicholette von Reiche
So happy to be here, my friend, thank you for inviting me, I’m so excited.
Nicole Laino
So tell everybody a little bit about you. I was like the guest kind of just give the give the the audience a little something that I don’t capture in that intro
Nicholette von Reiche
yes. So I come from a background of being a business strategist. So business coaching and design. And then more recently, combining that with healing and energetics. So such a beautiful companion this work, especially now and I work with my clients to really help them turn their passions and their soul at work. To help them deepen their potency and create a life and business that flow more effortless. We were talking a little bit earlier before the show how you know, we get to this point where we’re like, there has to be more I got here a specific way that I want to change the way that that I go forward, what more is there? How much deeper? Can I you know, search within myself? Who am I? What are my purposes? How do I bring all of me forward. And that’s one of the things that I think I’m really good at is helping with the energetics, bringing the healing, bringing the strategy having like my foot in both. And I think what I love the most is my clients get really clear about what they want to go and then we’re able to heal on our way there. So anything that comes up, that would have been sabotage, or change their mind, were able to just move through things so much faster.
Nicole Laino
And that really is the key that the journey is going to look. It can look really messy and where we hear people say all the time, I’m stuck, I’m stuck, I’m stuck. And you’re stuck. Because there’s something internal typically that you can’t get over and it can feel like an external thing. It can feel like well, I don’t have the team or I don’t have the resources. And it’s it’s more about No, the way that you’re approaching bringing on those resources or getting the help that you need is actually part of what’s standing in the way what’s making you afraid of taking this step, what is making you afraid of that, you know, the end result won’t come. And that’s how everything does come back to in my mind into the energetics of the fact that you’re there to heal along the way. And to clear out those roadblocks that come up. It’s just such a priceless benefit that you that you add with that.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yeah, it’s so magical. And what I find is that we don’t always do know where we’re blocked or that we repeat the same patterns and we’re really able to go into like subconscious what are we put there that we don’t even aware beliefs that we took on, you know, that come get in the way of us really being able to make the the impact and the change that we’re really craving to our core. And being able to like transmute that and heal it and what is also so beautiful is we focus on the business. But inevitably we move to the personal and you know, my coach always says when you heal for yourself, you are healing your family, you’re healing your ancestors. And I’ve seen that firsthand that me doing the work on myself and my clients doing their work. It softens and shifts everything else in their business. And it’s the work we want to do the least. But it has the most profound effect it really collapses time in a way.
Nicole Laino
I couldn’t agree more and and it changes our clients too because we work so closely with people if your coach or if your service provider where you’re working with people, your energy affects them. And they, if you haven’t healed something, and then you’re effectively you’re, you can be working out of a wound which you don’t intentionally hurt somebody else or put that on somebody else. But you can, you can be just kind of infecting the environment with whatever it is that you haven’t been willing to look at whatever it is that you haven’t been willing, where Haven’t you been willing to go? So I love that. And it’s this is where you and I are very similar in in the work that we do, we’re where we do have that focus of have you come at it from much more of a healing modality of spiritual healing. And I have the tapping in that in the work that I do with human design. But it’s it really is about, you know, looking at it really holistically your business and not looking at it just like well, here’s the strategy. And I want to talk about that because I want I want to show everybody the arc a little bit here, of where you were, like where you’ve come from, to where you are now. You were very, traditionally more of like a strategist to begin with. And you know, and providing deliverables. So designing gorgeous websites and gorgeous templates and these beautiful designs for people, including myself. I’ve used lots of your stuff throughout the years. And And now you’ve gotten to this to where you’re still doing some of that, but now you’re just incorporating more and more energy over time. Can you talk about that journey a little bit? And you know, how you see yourself as different from where you were a couple of years ago to where you are now?
Nicholette von Reiche
Yes. So I think a good way to put it to us was very, and still a little bit too much, in my mind, very systematized very organized. And I feel like source came in and said we’re going to shake everything upside down. Because that’s what’s needed. And then live, sometimes we need big things to happen to really course correct and go a different direction. Because we don’t get the nudges. We’re like, Nope, I’m gonna keep doing this. It’s working, it’s fine, I’m comfortable. It’s why Why fix something that’s not broken, right, but you’re not really living at your full potential, which is totally fine. We always have a choice. But then at some point, it’s like, you came here to do something specific. And you’re so close, you know, like you need the nudges, it’s like, and you can always learn those lessons again, and another life is what I believe, but there’s gonna be so much harder because you keep piling and piling, piling piling. And so where I am now versus a year ago was just completely different. And I feel like, what happened is my my business was completely turned upside down and I built back up from the ground up. And healing was introduced to me and someone had pointed out what you do with your clients is you’re actually reading their energetics, you’re noticing what’s lighting them up, you’re noticing when they’re tapping into information that they’re doing in their business, because they’ve been told to, or because they really feel they should because this person is successful. And therefore if they follow those steps, they will be successful too. And then you introduce new concepts to them based on what you’re how you’re able to read them and their business and make suggestions and get them on the right path. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I do do that. But I don’t charge for any of that. And then I started charging for coaching. And as you know, synchronicity, the next step comes, the next step comes and then I was introduced to my spiritual mentor, who said she’s going to help me learn how to read the Akashic records, how to do Akashic healing, and he was like, and she said, you can read their request for people’s businesses. And I was like, Paul blew my mind, I was like, makes so much sense. Because if I can actually tell my clients why they get stuck at specific things, I can see a variation of their purpose and their business and why they’re so drawn to do the work that they want to do. But they keep getting stuck in specific places. And we keep like repeating, repeating, repeating. But if we can access that information, and work with source, that’s just a whole different level. And then so when I started doing this healing work with my clients, it just brought a whole different dimension to our sessions. And so now I do the alternating strategy and healing and they’re like they love it. They get to play with me and both because so amazingly well, but we’re able to like change their vibe Question so much faster now. And me and my business what that looked like, we were talking about this because I still feel like I’ve one foot out one foot in like kind of coming out of the spiritual closet, but still not. Yeah. But I never would have brought in the word sorceress or a healer in our energetics even, which is so funny. My first course was eating for energy for moms. My second course was style, your energy, which was like, you know, style, this is your home. And now I’m like, Energy is everywhere. And I’m like, there’s always those themes. And we’re talking about like the brand, and the styling is always also there. And I do love helping my clients notice the beauty that’s in their lives and their business and bringing that out. So somehow it comes full circle. Yeah. Does that answer your question?
Nicole Laino
Yeah. And I do believe that, that, you know, we shake off. And I want to ask you about how human design has played a role for you, because you’re, like I said, at the beginning, you’re a six, three sacral manifesting generator, which, like, that’s, that’s a lot. The ladder of energy. But like, I do believe, that didn’t like I did a whole program on called becoming that was that was really about, you know, really coming back to who you’ve always been. That, that I’ve always had this, this feeling like, it’s, and I always say, like, it’s not about addition, it’s not about adding anything more, it’s about taking away all the things that that are covering up who you’ve always been, and usually, especially for generators and manifesting generators, it’s, it’s the shoulds, well, I should do it this way. This person told me it would work this way. I heard someone made a bajillion dollars in three hours doing it this way. So we go that way, because we think it’s the fastest way to what we want to the end result. And I’m curious for you, if, and I’ll speak from my experience, part of it for me was, you know, I chased the money for a long time, like, this is how I’ll make the money, this is how I’ll get to those, you know, 10k months, then 20k months, then 40k months, so then you know that the 100 came on consecutive consecutive 100k months, you know, like, chasing that, chasing that. It wasn’t until I let all of that go, that it actually started to flow. And I could I could start removing the things. And those were most of my shoulds had to do with money. And following that, that trail of like, well, this is how I’ll get the money. And this is how I’ll get the recognition. And this is how I’ll get you know, I’ll get to where I want to go. This is how I’ll get my success. And I’m curious if that aligns with you at all, where it was there anything that you had to let go of, in order to? Or did it just kind of did the big turd in your business come that forced your hand? Or did you have to kind of let go of anything that you were chasing in order to relax enough to be like, I’m going to let the energetics guide me.
Nicholette von Reiche
I got there eventually, at first, I think I was chasing money. And then I was chasing time freedom. And then I was constantly in like, it’s this or that. And so I had a freedom. Oh, now you have the money, you don’t have the time freedom, and I have the time, and we don’t have the money. And then there’s also like, you want to enjoy your purpose. But when you’re constantly stressed out, you can’t fully really be connected to your purpose because you’re like, gotta pay the bills, or I don’t have the time you’re just constantly in that stressed out overwhelm kind of energy. And so I think when I started learning more about my design, I was like, I get to have them both, how am I standing in my way to have both. And I was like, first focus on the time freedom, like true freedom. Like I can step away from my business and it’s not going to fall apart. I can have Friday’s off and to you know, have my cycle days and just have fun really tuning into what is my Yes, what is my No, because there was a point where I didn’t know even the difference, you know, like kind of a no, but I kind of have to do it and be nice not to but I should you know like you’re you get in your head about it. And then I think I got to the point where I was like no amount of the freedom that I want, or the money that I want is going to be created in that lack energy, and that push energy. And when I think I surrendered to and that’s hard that word was so hard for me. I feel like I heard so many people say so. Under trust, no, like, yeah, easy. So it’s easier said than done. But when I actually allow myself to be like, what does that look like for me to surrender? What does that look like for me to trust that the next step will reveal itself? Things to become easier, and I could breathe more, and it was more excited again. And from there, it’s like, the right pieces just aligned. Like for me not having all of the answers. All of the steps laid out was so hard if I don’t have that, then what am I doing? I’m just gonna follow out and, you know, I’d be found upon I need to know. And now I’m like, I don’t need to know everything. And that’s kind of fun. Because it’s like, the course correct. You know, at this point, we’ve built up so much experience that we can handle a little bit of being thrown off course and then coming back. And that’s like we said, like, when you’re thrown off course, that’s when there’s a lesson for you. That’s where there’s something for you to heal and work through. And now I feel like I’m when I see those instead of being like, the easier thing is to ignore it. I’m like, Okay, let’s go full on steam ahead into this. There’s something there’s a nugget there for me.
Nicole Laino
And I love kind of how you were putting that, you know, the surrender, because I think most people, including myself misinterpret that word as like giving up. It almost feels like like surrender is like, I just don’t care anymore. I’m I’m letting go. And you’re letting go of control. And energetic. Yeah, the need to control you’re saying like, like, for me, the surrender is, it is that deepening of trust. It is that like, I don’t need to know how, and I do surrender to the process. Like, I trust that this is, no matter how much I thought about this, if I’m gonna probably get it wrong. Like, if I think about it, and I plan it out so meticulously, and I have it all lined up, then I’m leaving no space for magic, I’m leaving no space for the universe to come in and be like, Oh, but I showed here, let me show you how you could do this easier. Let me show you how you could do this without like, so you laid it all out. But you laid it all out in your conditioning in the way that you view the world through the lens of either have time freedom, or I have money, you just laid it out like that. So now you’re going to get more of that. So the surrender is I want something different, and I have no idea how I’m going to make that happen. And you know what, I don’t need to know how I get to play with all of the ways that it could happen. And I trust that I’m supported, that the things that fall away, fall away for a reason. And I trust that the things that come to me I look for, what’s the message, what is the, you know, what is this teaching me? And surrendering to that process has been life changing for me and my clients. And it was interesting seeing people come in who were very successful, but the the surrender part just wasn’t there, then that fear of if I don’t do it this way, it’s all going to fall apart. It’s all going to go away. And it’s like, well, if you think about it that way, then yes, that’s exactly how it will happen. But if you if you surrender to it, and you say no, I trust that if I want, I want something better, that better is there and available to me. And I’m supported in it. You know that? That? That feeling of support is so important.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yes, yes. And I think what’s so good too, is you’re like I’ve gotten here this way, but that that seed is planted, there has to be another way. But then instead of letting that stress you out, which I think initially it does, because if we’re like but it’s not like this, then how is there another way, but to get curious and playful with it instead? I’m curious to know, to learn what I know this way. Now I’m gonna learn what other ways there are to get to this result in an easier way.
Nicole Laino
I’m glad that you brought that up. Because what I’m hearing there and kind of what’s coming through for me there is because because that’s the energetic part. It’s it’s not doing thing, we could all stop working. But some of us things will go fine, and the path will appear. And then some people it will all come crashing down and it’s that the difference is not necessarily anything that they’ve built. It’s the energy that you’re in. Are you looking at it where like I have a client who will trust for a time, but then and I know it because of the the Voxer messages that come and You know, we get the questions. And my biggest thing with a lot of people is coaching them through. You are putting yourself in fearful energy because you’re worrying about the surrender isn’t going to work. You’re not actually surrendering then you’re in the energy of fear. You’re in the energy of lack. And I get it. This is the hardest part. But but it’s the it’s the watch pot never boils. Is it there yet? isn’t there yet? isn’t there yet. Surrender.
Nicholette von Reiche
For me, it’s funny. So It’s fall now. And I was driving on Monday and I was like, my brand. Colors are fall. I was like, fall is just such a beautiful visual for me of surrender. Because the leaves changes those these beautiful colors, and the trees are like, I’m gonna be naked, but it’s okay. But it’s okay. It’s gonna be a hard few months, but it’s okay to get stronger minute ground deeper, minute anchor deeper. And it’s just so beautiful visual, because I think at first the word surrender was like, What the frick do I do with that, you know, meditate, you get your center, and you get those words surrender, trust you like, Thank you. What do we do with that. But it really is that simple. And sometimes I feel like people say they don’t see it. I’m like, they’re just not conditioned to saying it. But the universe co creates with you. I mean, the universe wants to co create it, the signs are there, but you’re not conditioned to notice it. And this is why I love the healings too, because I can help peel back those filters, you know, and we can get into beliefs and things that you’ve accumulated, that we can start getting rid of, so that you are more connected to yourself, because we have all the answers. And this is another thing, I think we look to other people for our solutions, this, this person is gonna help me succeed, this person will help me get more confidence, this person’s gonna help me structure my business. And yes, you can get those people with their expertise to help you but you actually have everything inside of yourself. All the answers are within you. We just need to learn how to read listen again, like tune in again.
Nicole Laino
Yeah, and that’s, that personally, for me, that’s what I part of what I love human design for is it puts the power, not in your mind, but in your body, it gets you listening to an unconditioned response. And following what doesn’t make sense. It’s like, if it tells you like, if going for a walk in the middle of the day, when you have a deadline feels like the right thing to do, then trust that I know it doesn’t feel like it doesn’t that like your mind is telling you that that’s crazy, that you have you have stuff to do, but trust it. And I mean, I’ve had that happen a million times where I’ve gone and I’ve given myself that break. And I’ve done exactly where my sacral have gone where my sacral guided me to. And whatever answer I was asking for dropped in or something happened while I was doing that thing that didn’t make sense. That made everything makes sense. That was not making sense in that in that moment before it and and that’s the magic of it. And that’s the part that helped me surrender and trust so much more because I was like, I’m not alone. I am being communicated with I am being spoken to. The messages are there. I’ve just now I’m learning to listen.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yeah, and we’re never alone. I think when that happens like go take the walk go do this thing that feels impossible right now we need a pattern interrupt. And that’s the easiest way for source to say you’re not going to force the answer right now you’re gonna get in your head you’re not in your body are completely cut off from your body not even breathing correctly, because you’re sitting there trying to wool the answer to come and the hardest part is actually to get up and go for the walk would do the thing that you don’t want to do because you’re like I don’t have the time but you make up that time because the feelings the ideas that drop are so much simpler and easier and they feel so much better. So if you do actually listen to those cues, I feel like it always pays to visit dividends but you know what I mean like it always pays for itself so much more than forcing yourself to sit you know in that energy of I have to do this right now.
Nicole Laino
I look at it like and particularly so if you’re a generator or a manifesting generator, this is especially true for you just because your your sacral will not only not help and you’re missing out on like I’ve talked on here about like I’ve named mine Her name is Julie my sacral And Julie and I are like the most dynamic duo. When we work together, it’s magic. And whenever I do anything without Julie, it sucks. And it’s really hard. And I’m no good at it and it doesn’t turn out well, and I’m angry, and I’m behind and it doesn’t work well. And I look at it now, like I’m punishing myself, when I’m when I’m working against it, it’s almost like, because you actually said that the sacral is the most powerful motor in the body graph, it’s the most powerful motor in the body. And we have consistent access to it if you turn it on. And if you don’t turn it on, yes, you can access the energy of it, meaning you can, and this is why generators and manage ends, we have the ability to power through particularly if you have another motor center, like you have Nikola, you have your your ego defined, you can work out of your ego, like the energy is there, is it going to be efficient and comfortable and probably give you your best work product? No, because you’re actually that’s not meant to do all of the work. The ego is that’s not the work it’s meant to do. It’s not the type of energy it’s meant to provide. And the sacral you’re actually degrading the motor. So when the sacral is on, and it’s like I want to work on this thing with you, it will create more energy and give you more energy to do that thing. And it will keep going and going and going until it’s like okay, we’ve had enough. And the sacral knows when it’s had enough like Okay, it’s time to rest now, but that was awesome. Let’s do it again tomorrow. But when we don’t turn it on, then and we are it’s like grinding the gears of the car, like you’re degrading that motor, you’re degrading the transmission. You are. You’re You’re killing it. Effectively, if you do it for too long. It’s why we burn out. Because you You’re ruining this beautiful sacral motor that you you have, you’re you’re abusing it. And I’m so so like that when we come with that energy of like I look at it like I’m, I’m torturing myself, and I’m long term, I’m doing damage when I work in that space. And sometimes you have to remind yourself like sometimes I forget. And I’m doing something I’m like, why am I forcing this?
Nicholette von Reiche
Yes. What am I doing girl?
Nicole Laino
Let me go and light myself up. What would feel good right now. And I’m just going to sit here until something moves me to do something else. And that is like that is a magical gift that I give myself. And all the work that I do it comes out so much better. When I do when I follow that strategy and follow my authority. I wanted to ask you How is being a six, three? Effective because it’s an interesting profile. It’s not that it’s so much that it’s necessarily rare. But it is. It’s it can be very powerful and very challenging. And I’m curious, like how what how has your relationship been with it? And I know we’ve discussed this a little bit, but I’d love for you to share here
Nicholette von Reiche
Well, you said it’s an interesting profile. So I want to know from you first why that’s such an interesting profile. But I have just learned a lot of that I feel like I understand myself a whole lot better. But I want to hear from you first.
Nicole Laino
Yeah, absolutely. So the six three, why I find it interesting, because that anybody who has a six in their profile line, it goes through through three stages. And effectively from the age of so from the time you’re born until you’re 30 years old, you’re in your first phase, which technically you’re a three because you’re you’re a three maturing and that’s how you get to the sixth stage. And so effectively why why I consider it interesting is your two threes basically both consciously and unconsciously, at the same time, and this is a harmonious line. So like the six and the three, sometimes we have like my, my, my five and my one our that’s not what we call harmonious meaning they’re, they’re different energies. So one can pull in another direction. There can be a bit of infighting I guess between the two lines, whereas like the six three being harmonious, it, it does, they speak the same language, they literally are the same for the first 30 years of your life. So you go through that first 30 years where you’re you’re operating like two threes, which means that like consciously and unconsciously, you’re having all of these are trial and error experiences. Life’s bumping into you, you’re bumping into life, things are happening and hopefully you’re in a supportive environment where you’re thought that failure is part of your process that, that you’re going to try things and some things are gonna go great and some things aren’t and you don’t care which happens because you’re learning all the time. And it’s you’re, you’re constantly evolving. And then you hit that 30 years old. And then suddenly, you’re in this 30 to 50 stage, your Saturn Return. And you’re now you are in what we call, you’re on the roof. So you’ve been messing around in life, and you’ve been bumping into life, and you know, you’re in it with everybody, you’re in the weeds. And then you climb on top of the house, and you say, like, I’m tired. Now, I’m gonna go and sit on top of the roof and watch y’all and learn that way. And I’m going to observe, and I’m going to be the observer. And you do that for 20 years, all while you have. And this is, this is what I mean, where so you’re observing, but that three in your body side still exists, that three that wants to break things that three that wants to like, get in there, get messy, get dirty, try things. But now you have this other side of you that’s like, let’s not do that. Let’s just can we just watch. And like, I need a break. And I’m kind of, I’m just sort of checking things out from up here. So you have these two things now that they’re, they’re still the same energy, but one kind of wants to do one thing, while the other is like, why are you so why are you such a scaredy pants now, like, let’s go, let’s go mess it up. That’s how we, that’s how we do. You know, I mean, that in the best possible that my husband is a three, five and, and that man lives the three in all of its ways. And he’s an incredibly aligned person. And I know a lot of threes who are like that, where they’re just, my niece is like that, where she’s like, I will, I want to learn how to do a back handspring, I’m going to do it, I’m going to do it, I’m going to do it, I’m going to do it until I get it just has that energy to her. Whereas like, you know, if you’re a five, one like me, you’re like, No, I’m just gonna, I’m gonna like read about it and think about it and get really, really clear on it. And then I’ll try it. And then you know, and if I fail, I’m probably going to feel like a failure and think that everybody hates me, and I’m going to run away
Nicole Laino
in the lower expression of it, and then the last, when you get to 50 years old, then you go into your, your role model stage where you truly step into being the role model. And that six stages where you’re like, I’ve been there, I’ve done it all, I’ve been in the weeds with you all, and I’ve tried it all. And I’ve seen it all. And I’ve observed things from a really high vantage point where I’ve learned a lot from my point of view that that many people can’t see. And now I’m at this next stage where I’m ready to share all of my findings with you, here. And now people come to you and they just feel that role model thing where they’re just like, I feel like you can lead me somewhere, I don’t know where, but I trust you, there’s a deep trust with the six the sixes, particularly with the six in the front, there’s just this feeling of like, I trust that you’re gonna take me somewhere good. And that you have things to teach me. So yeah, open up, however, so I consider it interesting because six is you move in those phases. So you change, it’s one of it’s the most evolutionary of the lines. And, and a six inherently has all the lines in it, the one, the two, the three, the four, the five, like you, you kind of you have them all in there somewhere. And that’s how that’s why you’re kind of this entity of your own. So the sixes are always fascinating to me. And then the fact that you are two threes that for 30 years of your life, I think is probably like I look at that, and I’m like that must be wild.
Nicholette von Reiche
So we’re all we’re all threes in this household. So it’s wild. You know, I love combining human design with my work with my work because I’m like, we get to dive into the soul. I love seeing what the human decided to lay out for themselves in this life. And so when my clients are like, but I want to do this and this and then it just brings so much it’s such a powerful tool for me to help them even understand why they do specific things. I didn’t quite have I think someone who understood why it was that way. So I think from the outside looking in, it was like, man, you gotta get it together. You are falling around you do this and doing that than this. Like just get a real job. Just get some stability, like don’t be so naive. Don’t be so dreamy, like, you know, like, do normal be normal. And I think now knowing I know that the trial and error is my strength and not a failure. And even with my clients when they’re like that didn’t work, I’m a failure. I’m like, No, you’re not you just learned How to not do it. Now, what’s been what’s next? You know, we need to keep going. It’s not like it’s a one and done thing. And I think that’s what’s great about being a six and a three is that we’re just like, Okay, that didn’t work next, okay, maybe that didn’t work, or we can tweak this thing and then do this. You didn’t cooperate this, maybe I didn’t follow my staple. But it’s like, knowing yourself. In this way, everything is like make sense. And then it’s like, I meant to work this way. I meant to get excited. Like we even said, how the six has that three phase process and how they approach projects. First, we tried a few different things. And then we observe a little like, what worked, what didn’t work, maybe this piece, but we don’t quite go as frantic balls to the wall, try another thing. And then in the third phase, we’re like, this is how I’m going to do it. And that’s the difference. But we can’t get to that place that confidence without first trying all of the other things. And at first, I was like, Oh, my gosh, so you know, when I first learned I was a six, three, I’m like, I who are six threes. I want to go see all the six threes. I want any six threes? Like, are we just sitting around for 20 years? Do we not get anything together until we’re 50. I want people who are successful in their businesses. And, and now I have so many successes in my life. And I like you, I get us like, wow, it’s actually pretty cool.
Nicole Laino
sixes are very successful. sixes are very successful. And there’s like a, there’s just a deep knowing about them. And you can have that from right from the beginning. It’s it’s about that embracing the two sides, it’s about embracing both stages that you’re at, and not letting one side feel left out or not nurturing it. So like, are you nurturing the side, the three that’s like, I want to like I need to experience things like that’s how I learned, that’s how I grow. That’s how I’m lit up. And you’ll be led to experiences through your sacral, like their sacral is going to be it’s part of your design. So it’s your sacral is going to be lit up by experiences. And it’s your strategy and authority that that bring the design side, the unconscious and the conscious together. It Like It’s the voice of because you’re our personality is what we we identify with, like, we’re just like, Yeah, that sounds like me. And then the body side, the design side is the side that’s like, it’s quiet, it’s underneath the surface, we may not be as in touch with that. So by just by virtue of that setup, it’s sometimes it does, it literally doesn’t have a voice with us. It’s It’s like our personality is like, don’t listen to that. Let’s do it this way. Yeah, so making sure that that unconscious three, through your sacral yeses, it’s leading you to experiences that your soul wants to have that, that the universe is laying those breadcrumbs out for you. But it’s going to be through experience like for me, I pick up it’s it’s the it’s the research, it is the learning it is the like deep depths of knowledge in my unconscious, one line that I have to nurture that foundational element of things and the creation of things has to be there. Where’s like the three? You guys are like, I need to just do it. I need to I need to get in there. And it’s about the experience without the experience. You don’t you don’t get the magic?
Nicholette von Reiche
Yes. I think to what it made me realize is I meant to always grow and evolve and learn and want and have that desire to do it not because I feel like I don’t know enough or I’m not enough. Because it’s fun for me. It’s because how I grow Melanie and Larissa is growth and expansion over a lifetime and that it just clicks for me because it’s like, I’m not doing it because I feel like I need to learn more. I want to learn more. It’s just how I am. I’m always going to be wanting to strive for more. And that doesn’t mean that I’m not grateful for you know what I’ve achieved. But I that I’m lit up by what’s the next step? How much more can I achieve? So I love that. And then another thing that we spoke about is I think that they’re five and six that their karma is connected with other people or how did you put that
Nicole Laino
the five and the six if you have a five or a six in the front of your profile, it’s what we call a transpersonal profile, meaning that your karma Your destiny is an your purpose are really only going to be found through connections with other people. They’re connected with other souls. So we’re here to we evolve through our connection with other souls. wills and we are here to help other souls evolve or do something. So it’s why typically, if you have a five or six in front, you’re you’re going to be drawn out and to interact with people to work with people. If, if there’s part of you that wants to stay hidden, the part of you that’s crying out saying you can’t hide is the part saying, we literally cannot fulfill our purpose. It’s not about us. It’s about all the people we touch. And while we can all have like an eminent saying, if you have the other if you have a more personal destiny, that you can’t help people, it’s just it’s not going to be your purpose can be fulfilled by yourself. Your purpose can be fulfilled by you, just being who you are, and going on your own personal evolution. If you have a five or a six, it’s so tied to the other people, meaning you affect other people. In every there’s no, there are no coincidence meetings, there are no coincidence friendships, your soul connected to the people that you meet, it’s a much more direct connection.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yeah, I love that. And in that, I think is your personal fulfillment, because every person has enough good for you, and you’re for them. And so in love that people like always telling me, oh, my gosh, I can’t tell you, I can’t believe I told you all that. And then
Nicole Laino
you also have the six, you also have gate six, and you have that as your unconscious Earth, which is your purpose. And that gate six is the gate of friction. It’s known as, like the aura breaker. Meaning that you have this ability. And by friction, we mean, think about like a butterfly coming out of a cocoon, it creates friction to make the hole to push its way out to get out. So it’s good friction. In its highest expression. Of course, we’re always talking like, there’s always that there’s always the chance that friction can go bad. But, but in its highest expression, we don’t do that I have I have six twice in my and I have the whole channel here. So I understand this where like, people just feel very connected to you also have the 33, which is a very like connection gait as well. So you have two elements that people might be where you break their aura, where you are, you make your way in by Just Your presence, and have the ability to open people up very quickly. I have similar things in my chart where people feel very close and connected very, very quickly.
Nicholette von Reiche
So they can trust you. And say thanks. Yeah,
Nicole Laino
yep. And that’s a byproduct of just your energy. It’s a byproduct of just the way that that were built. And you know, and I love that you’re doing work that, you know, and that’s I think what we get called to is we get called to call out as we live more in alignment. And I’ve heard people say, like, Stop telling me that all I need is alignment to be successful. We have to do hard work. And it’s like, yeah, you’re being called though. I believe alignment. The more you live in alignment, the more your gifts get called out. Yes. And the more your gifts get called out, the more you’re using them. And the more you’re using them, the happier you are, the more useful and aligned you feel where you’re just like, ah, because I mean, how many people are out there saying like, I just want to know my purpose. And
Nicholette von Reiche
every single person, yes, everybody says
Nicole Laino
that to some, like everyone feels like I don’t know what I’m here for God telling me the way what’s my path? I don’t care how you ask it. We’re all asking that question. Like, what’s my meaning here? Why, why why? And, and then it’s often not a big bang of why it just like your people want to know their purpose. Like I can tell you your purpose. As it’s written in your chart, I can tell you that. But it’s, it doesn’t matter because you can’t chase the purpose. It’s not the big bang of like, Now I know my purpose. Now I can be it. That’s not how it works. You live in alignment, and the purpose just starts to show up, it becomes who you are. And so it’s the process of taking these steps following what’s right, rather than what we should do following like, our correct process and what’s right for us, that starts to activate every single thing that we have, and suddenly all of our stuff is being used. And then suddenly, that purpose just shows up one day and you’re like, oh my god, that thing that someone read to me in a reading is now like, the life that I live Yeah, I see it happening everywhere around me. And that’s, that’s such a beautiful, just result. And way. I love that you’re living that now. I love that you’re like you’re you just I love how all of these things are kind of coming together for you. I think you’re just this beautiful example of, of, of that arc. And just one last question I wanted to ask you, did you consider yourself someone who lived in masculine energy before or leaned more that way? Or? Or did you not really identify with that? I’m curious.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yeah, absolutely. Very push. And it’s a strength of mine. Because I can go up and be very feminine and play into possibilities with my clients. And they’re like, Okay, what’s next? And then I can be like, Okay, here’s the steps, how does this feel. And so I can play in both is beautiful is now that I’m able to, I embrace both, is I noticed when my clients are stepping out of their alignment, and I keep bringing them back, and being like, just we can strategize. But let’s make sure that we’re following our strategy and not bringing anything in that you’ve not picked up from somewhere else, especially I think, if people are the heads open, right, that we stay true. And I think there’s something to be said, because I think you’re masculine, while for most people who are super masculine, and they go super feminine. But it’s the marriage of both, and they really do can coexist beautifully. And, yeah, it’s interesting that you asked that because I feel that’s for a lot of people that are like, Okay, I don’t want to push anymore. I don’t want to be in this energy anymore. But I don’t know, the other way to be and then we are the other way. And then we’re like, okay, it’s a flow in wonderful, and I’m just gonna sit back, let everything happen. And then you’re like, Okay, that’s not the way either. You don’t want to lose this.
Nicole Laino
Yeah, I wouldn’t, I feel like we do have to go, like, just go and swim in that end of the pool for a while. And just, and, and notice, like, what that difference is, like, I gotta go. And like, I have to really dance that dance to understand what it’s like, not just watched someone dance it or, you know, like, Oh, I did it for like, a minute. And then now I’m back to this way. I’m now I’m back to the masculine. Because I think that that’s what people do, we dip our toe in the feminine energy, water. And it’s like, yeah, that’s enough of that for me. And but I, I agree completely, on needing that balance. In order to be successful, you need both. It’s, it’s so it’s not so much like we would traditionally probably call it work life balance. But it’s not that it’s like a balance of your masculine and your feminine energies. That’s what’s come in for me is like, there’s a deeper grounding. And the more grounded I am, the more strategic I can be without feeling like I lose any of the feminine flow.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yes, this is what I love about my work. It’s because we really do get to see what, what the soul of the body what the human is ready to heal in the business and what’s off, and then it’s like, okay, how do we do with this? And it’s like, how would you like to do it? What would feel good for you? And then we bring this strategy in, because then my clients are like this, this this, that seems like, okay, it can be even easier. We take this step. But when we do this, and this Yes, amazing, okay. And then we go from there. And then we get stuck. And then we heal, and we bring the feminine flow. And again, we bring the energetics and then we tap in, sometimes what we heal. So when we start working together, they’re here and I want to go here. And it’s the same thing like, I can think, and maybe it works this way. Because this is because how I the work that we you make progress. And then we hear we make progress, we make progress this way. Like we bounce a lot, but it all comes together. Like we’ll be speaking about their upcoming launch. And all of a sudden, we’re healing something on the side about a relationship, a family relationship that’s so difficult, and it clear something up, they were particularly very stuck within their business on an ongoing basis. And all of a sudden, things are just open and clear and easy. And so sometimes I feel like my clients are like, No, what’s the strategy today, but it’s a specific healing session. I’m like, No, let’s do the healing sessions. Glad to help you. But it’s it’s difficult to do that. Sometimes. Sometimes. It’s fun. Sometimes. It’s interesting. And sometimes it’s like, oh, I don’t want to cry today. But it’s like that really do this internal work. It’s going to, it’s like taking that break when you least want to do it. It’s like it just frees you up and makes you feel more peaceful and grounded and connected, you know, and it makes things fall into place that you’ve been trying to figure out in your head for so long, and you’re like, I get it now. And that’s just such an amazing feeling, I can feel it. Like, that’s how you feel when you start understanding you’re designed to it’s like, I’m not broken, I meant, this way, I meant to do these things. And with my experiences, if I had known that this was the thing that would help me connect with my clients, most of my clients have gone through something. And I can understand it, because I’ve either experienced it, or someone really close to me has experienced it. And I’m like, I see now how this piece fell into place. Because I can have my passion and I can give them the tools to, you know, work through that. three and a six, like keeping that in mind that nothing is just nothing happens without a reason for it. Like just trust your process. Just experiences, trust, all of it works out. It works in your favor.
Nicole Laino
Right. And the worst thing as a three that you can do is get focused on something that didn’t go well and start beating yourself up or shying away from taking another jump. Because you’re afraid of that past experience repeating itself. Like the worst thing that you can do is fall into that trap because that’s you blocking how your own process. So I love that you brought that up to that it’s it does give you permission to trust yourself. And trust that your way is the right way.
Nicholette von Reiche
Yes.
Nicole Laino
Well, I love this I’m so I’m so grateful to you for coming on. I appreciate you sharing so openly and just sharing your heart you know, I love you. And I’m I’m so happy that everybody got to hear from you and got to meet you. So where can they stay in touch with you? How can they learn more about you what you do and and hear more about all the things Nicolette?
Nicholette von Reiche
Thank you, my friend. It’s always so fun to chat with you. I am the passiveincomeagency.co. And I’m also the passive income agency on Instagram. So those are the two easiest ways to get ahold of me. Beautiful. Well, we’ll
Nicole Laino
link all of that up in the show notes for you. Yes. So Nicolette still offers designs and all sorts of all sorts of strategic things. But also she offers these amazing healing sessions that I highly recommend you taking her up on, she’s helped me come through some really, really, things I didn’t even know were there. Things I had, I knew they were there. I saw the results of them, but I had no idea where they were coming from until I worked with her and we moved a lot of stuff very, very quickly. So I encourage you to go check that out and follow her definitely over on Instagram because she’s always sharing such beautiful stuff. Thank you for being here, Nicolette and my friend, thank you listen or for making it all the way to the end of this conversation with us and being a part of it. We appreciate you. Remember, you’re only limited by the limitations that you accept and when you stop accepting those limitations. That is when you become limitless. So go out there and be limitless, my people. I will see you in the next one.
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